Frontend Feud： ShopTalk vs Syntax_transcript.txt

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[152.16 --> 152.92]  It's feud time, y'all.
[152.92 --> 160.34]  It's time to play Front End Feud.
[160.34 --> 165.00]  Hello there, and welcome to Front End Feud.
[165.08 --> 167.52]  I am Jared Santo, your host for today.
[167.76 --> 170.58]  It has been a while since we played this game,
[170.66 --> 172.60]  but we are happy to be here today,
[172.60 --> 174.82]  and we have a podcast super collab.
[175.02 --> 176.28]  We got together some of our friends
[176.28 --> 179.54]  from some of our favorite web dev podcasts in this space.
[179.62 --> 180.96]  I'm sure you've heard of them,
[181.46 --> 185.34]  and it is going to be Team Syntax versus Team Shop Talk.
[185.34 --> 185.80]  Hey, everybody.
[185.96 --> 186.92]  Welcome to Front End Feud.
[187.40 --> 187.70]  Hey.
[188.16 --> 189.10]  Ooh, yeah.
[190.92 --> 195.66]  Now we wanted to give it a little JS Party flavor,
[195.82 --> 196.62]  so we've mixed in,
[196.68 --> 200.26]  we've sprinkled in some JS Party panelists onto each team.
[200.38 --> 202.86]  And so joining Team Shop Talk,
[203.16 --> 204.62]  which is Chris Coyer and Dave Rupert,
[204.72 --> 206.10]  is Amelia Wattenberger.
[206.26 --> 208.46]  So, Amelia, you are on Team Shop Talk.
[208.50 --> 208.82]  What do you think?
[209.16 --> 209.74]  I love it.
[210.10 --> 210.74]  We're going to win.
[211.46 --> 212.34]  Oh, absolutely.
[212.62 --> 215.22]  Good answer, good answer, good answer, good answer.
[215.22 --> 216.00]  There's no chance.
[216.22 --> 218.70]  And joining Team Syntax,
[218.78 --> 220.08]  which is West Boston Scott Talinsky,
[220.30 --> 221.14]  is Divya.
[221.36 --> 222.74]  Divya, welcome to Syntax.
[223.02 --> 223.72]  Hey, hey.
[223.92 --> 224.76]  Whoop, whoop.
[224.76 --> 225.58]  Best team.
[225.78 --> 226.46]  Best team.
[226.78 --> 229.12]  Divya is an old pro at Front End Feud,
[229.16 --> 231.38]  but I believe the rest of us are all new,
[231.48 --> 231.96]  even Amelia.
[232.56 --> 233.66]  So we should have a lot of fun.
[233.66 --> 235.34]  I'll quickly explain the rules.
[235.56 --> 238.92]  So this is a game all about the JS Party.
[238.92 --> 240.32]  The lovely listeners,
[240.56 --> 244.98]  we had 140 people fill out our Front End Feud survey.
[245.10 --> 246.54]  We appreciate you all for doing that.
[247.24 --> 248.28]  I really appreciate you,
[248.30 --> 249.78]  because I went back to the form at the end
[249.78 --> 252.58]  and realized the average take time was 37 minutes.
[252.68 --> 253.50]  I am so sorry.
[253.64 --> 254.54]  That thing took forever.
[255.18 --> 257.16]  And that's because we asked 25 questions,
[257.16 --> 258.40]  so we can play the game a few times
[258.40 --> 260.00]  without having to go back and do more surveys.
[260.16 --> 262.96]  So super appreciate all y'all for filling those out.
[262.96 --> 266.48]  The goal of the game is to match our listeners' answers.
[266.48 --> 268.28]  So we have pulled them on different things,
[268.28 --> 271.62]  and each team is going to try to match the answer
[271.62 --> 273.36]  with the most answered from the survey.
[274.42 --> 276.82]  And as you go about doing that, you win points.
[277.14 --> 279.26]  If you fail to do that three times in a round,
[279.46 --> 281.08]  the other team can steal,
[281.22 --> 285.06]  and the team with the most points at the end of the game wins.
[285.44 --> 286.02]  Any questions?
[286.90 --> 287.12]  Yeah.
[287.24 --> 289.06]  It's not the most correct answer, right?
[289.08 --> 289.42]  It's not.
[289.54 --> 291.66]  It's like I used to play apples to apples
[291.66 --> 293.34]  with my super pedantic uncle,
[293.34 --> 294.16]  and he's always like,
[294.26 --> 295.40]  but my answer's more correct.
[295.40 --> 298.18]  And you're like, Dennis, it's not about correctness.
[298.98 --> 300.18]  Such a Dennis move.
[300.50 --> 301.32]  That's exactly right.
[301.38 --> 303.52]  In fact, many of our questions are subjective,
[303.52 --> 305.58]  so it's according to the people's tastes
[305.58 --> 306.40]  or what they think,
[306.48 --> 307.72]  and so there really aren't right answers.
[307.82 --> 310.50]  The right answers are the ones that the most people said.
[311.14 --> 313.74]  So we will start off with a face-off.
[313.92 --> 316.88]  This is where two contestants step forward virtually
[316.88 --> 319.44]  and get a chance to answer first.
[319.56 --> 322.04]  The person who gets the highest answer on the board
[322.04 --> 323.74]  takes that board for their team,
[323.80 --> 326.24]  and their team participates in that round.
[326.38 --> 327.14]  So ladies first,
[327.22 --> 329.28]  we will have Amelia and Divya.
[329.42 --> 330.32]  Please step right up.
[332.74 --> 333.32]  Round one.
[333.42 --> 334.12]  We'll start with Amelia.
[334.28 --> 336.06]  Amelia, if you get the highest answer,
[336.22 --> 337.18]  you immediately take the board.
[337.24 --> 338.18]  If you don't get the highest answer,
[338.26 --> 339.54]  Divya gets a chance to take it.
[340.34 --> 343.56]  We asked 140 lovely JS Party listeners,
[343.56 --> 345.90]  what is your primary web browser?
[346.78 --> 347.74]  Oh, no pressure.
[348.64 --> 350.16]  I'm going to go with Chrome.
[351.46 --> 353.78]  Good answer, good answer, good answer, good answer.
[353.78 --> 357.24]  Number one answer with 52 responses.
[357.96 --> 361.94]  So that means Team Shop Talk is on the board.
[362.10 --> 364.14]  So we will now go in order.
[364.62 --> 365.94]  You can keep guessing.
[366.10 --> 368.74]  There are six browsers in the list.
[368.84 --> 370.54]  So you have to match all six to take the board.
[370.54 --> 374.06]  You have the number one answer, which is Chrome, with 52.
[374.30 --> 375.18]  There's five left.
[375.26 --> 376.08]  Let's go to Chris.
[376.62 --> 376.88]  Firefox.
[377.74 --> 378.14]  Firefox.
[378.48 --> 379.06]  Show me Firefox.
[380.92 --> 383.74]  Number two answer with 43 points.
[384.18 --> 384.58]  Very good.
[385.70 --> 386.80]  There's no conferring.
[386.88 --> 387.42]  Who goes next?
[387.52 --> 387.68]  Me?
[387.78 --> 388.60]  There's no conferring.
[388.64 --> 389.38]  Now we go to Dave.
[389.44 --> 390.24]  So we go in a round.
[390.50 --> 391.12]  Dave, it's your turn.
[391.82 --> 394.20]  It gets like infinitely harder from here on out.
[394.84 --> 395.70]  Okay, go Edge.
[396.36 --> 397.26]  Show me Edge.
[398.22 --> 400.46]  Number four answer with 11 points.
[400.54 --> 401.04]  Edge is on there.
[401.10 --> 403.70]  So you have four of the six.
[403.78 --> 404.76]  I'm sorry, three of the six.
[405.20 --> 406.42]  And now we go back to Amelia.
[407.10 --> 409.48]  Literally do not know any other browsers.
[410.32 --> 413.14]  I don't want to say Internet Explorer.
[413.92 --> 414.62]  Is that your answer?
[415.10 --> 415.70]  It is not.
[417.28 --> 419.66]  My answer is going to be better than that.
[419.86 --> 420.28]  Okay.
[422.32 --> 423.64]  So what is your answer then?
[423.74 --> 424.56]  You got it.
[424.56 --> 426.22]  No, it's going to be Internet Explorer.
[426.84 --> 427.20]  Okay.
[427.32 --> 428.40]  Internet Explorer.
[428.70 --> 429.72]  Show me IE.
[431.22 --> 431.62]  Sorry.
[432.02 --> 432.42]  I'm sorry.
[432.50 --> 433.74]  That's your first strike.
[434.06 --> 434.48]  It's all good.
[434.52 --> 437.42]  That's okay because that could have been like a total troll answer.
[437.60 --> 439.76]  I feel like that was fully valid.
[440.32 --> 441.36]  Yeah, I was trolling.
[441.40 --> 444.36]  For all the testers out there using IE.
[444.60 --> 444.94]  Yeah.
[445.36 --> 446.24]  Got to represent.
[446.74 --> 446.90]  Yeah.
[447.10 --> 447.92]  All right, we go to Chris.
[448.26 --> 449.80]  So do we keep it because strikes?
[450.02 --> 450.14]  Yeah.
[450.22 --> 450.34]  Yeah.
[450.46 --> 451.18]  So you have one strike.
[451.26 --> 452.12]  You have two strikes left.
[452.14 --> 453.30]  And then there'll be a steal opportunity.
[453.30 --> 457.38]  I'm going to go with Safari because it feels like one of the big three.
[457.74 --> 458.52]  Show me Safari.
[459.48 --> 460.04]  Okay.
[460.04 --> 464.00]  Number five answer with eight respondents using Safari.
[464.26 --> 464.58]  Remember it's-
[464.58 --> 466.58]  Oh, so the number three is still available?
[466.92 --> 468.90]  Remember, it's their primary browser.
[469.40 --> 470.04]  Okay.
[470.20 --> 472.04]  So now we go back to Dave.
[472.20 --> 472.82]  You got this.
[473.38 --> 473.90]  Oh, boy.
[474.34 --> 476.36]  I'm going to go Brave.
[476.92 --> 478.04]  Show me Brave.
[478.04 --> 480.66]  Number three answer.
[480.66 --> 481.38]  There it was.
[481.50 --> 481.92]  Number three.
[482.04 --> 482.92]  Eighteen people.
[483.12 --> 483.38]  Wow.
[483.52 --> 485.70]  Number three as their primary.
[485.96 --> 488.02]  So we have one strike against you.
[488.58 --> 491.94]  You have Chrome at number one, Firefox at two, Brave at three.
[492.20 --> 494.90]  You also said Safari at five.
[495.54 --> 496.64]  Did you say the number four?
[496.72 --> 496.98]  You did.
[497.06 --> 498.46]  You said Edge at number four.
[498.58 --> 500.34]  So there's one left.
[500.78 --> 501.74]  That's nuts.
[502.36 --> 503.98]  And we're back to Amelia.
[504.10 --> 504.78]  You have two strikes.
[504.78 --> 505.94]  So just take a guess.
[506.48 --> 506.86]  Dang it.
[506.86 --> 511.26]  Um, there's that one where it has, oh, I'm not going to give any clues.
[511.70 --> 513.10]  I don't actually know the name.
[514.22 --> 514.62]  Okay.
[515.14 --> 517.32]  Do you want to guess something random or you want to just take a strike?
[517.64 --> 521.00]  I use one called Stack that I know no one else uses.
[521.22 --> 522.20]  Show me Stack.
[525.02 --> 525.88]  You were correct.
[525.96 --> 526.98]  Nobody else uses Stack.
[529.36 --> 531.06]  So we don't get a point for that?
[531.22 --> 532.10]  She was correct.
[532.30 --> 533.78]  She was correct that nobody uses it.
[533.78 --> 534.80]  So we go to Chris now.
[534.80 --> 538.42]  This is your last guess before the, before Team Syntax gets the steal.
[538.42 --> 539.64]  Oh, we're going to steal it.
[540.08 --> 541.98]  I got to go with the big O Opera.
[542.44 --> 545.82]  I know it's a wild card, but I just feel like it might be hanging on.
[546.04 --> 546.98]  Show me Opera.
[548.64 --> 549.00]  Oh.
[550.88 --> 552.92]  Three strikes and you're out.
[552.92 --> 556.56]  So Team Syntax gets one guess you can confer amongst the team.
[556.92 --> 558.84]  And if you get it right, you steal the board.
[558.84 --> 559.02]  Okay.
[559.04 --> 560.08]  Can we confer openly?
[560.50 --> 560.72]  Yes.
[561.44 --> 561.84]  Samsung.
[562.46 --> 565.28]  I was going to say Vidalvi.
[565.46 --> 566.10]  Yeah, maybe.
[566.62 --> 566.98]  Vivaldi.
[567.96 --> 568.28]  Vivaldi?
[569.40 --> 569.76]  Vidalvi?
[569.82 --> 570.56]  Isn't that what it is?
[571.26 --> 571.62]  Vidalvi?
[572.54 --> 572.94]  Vivalvi.
[573.02 --> 573.76]  I always add random.
[573.92 --> 574.28]  Vivaldi.
[574.74 --> 576.14]  I'm just naming browsers here.
[576.26 --> 576.38]  Yeah.
[576.38 --> 579.96]  I thought it was Samsung because like they have a bunch of developer advocates and stuff.
[580.06 --> 582.32]  And also like you use it when you use your phone, right?
[582.46 --> 582.64]  So.
[583.04 --> 584.80]  They don't have a desktop browser though, do they?
[585.50 --> 586.84]  No, I think it's only mobile.
[587.50 --> 590.98]  I think it's just like a mobile thing, which is why I'm like, is it?
[591.16 --> 591.82]  I don't know.
[591.84 --> 592.76]  What's Vivaldi?
[593.62 --> 593.98]  Vivaldi.
[594.36 --> 596.38]  V-I-V-A-L-D-I.
[596.54 --> 597.10]  What is it?
[597.36 --> 598.58]  We can't Google it.
[598.74 --> 599.10]  So I can't tell you.
[599.10 --> 599.68]  Yeah, that's true.
[600.20 --> 601.12]  I don't know.
[601.12 --> 604.28]  Okay, so we have Sam, you're thinking Samsung, you're thinking Vivaldi.
[604.46 --> 606.24]  Vivaldi is also a famous person.
[606.78 --> 607.04]  Yeah.
[607.30 --> 612.80]  I think Vivaldi is like a, wasn't it like a, like security focused browser?
[613.14 --> 614.92]  So I could see there being like one.
[615.04 --> 618.22]  Oh, Tor actually, which is also a mobile.
[618.74 --> 619.98]  Can you use that as a.
[620.42 --> 621.38]  Man, this is tough.
[621.66 --> 623.30]  All right, let's make a decision here.
[623.46 --> 624.02]  What are you guys thinking?
[624.38 --> 624.72]  Okay.
[625.04 --> 625.84]  I think we should go.
[626.10 --> 626.84]  What do you think, Scott?
[627.58 --> 628.64]  Oh, I have no idea.
[628.64 --> 632.40]  In terms of browsers that I just heard mentioned recently, Vivaldi was one of them.
[632.50 --> 633.18]  So that's why.
[633.48 --> 634.72]  Yeah, that sounds fine.
[635.10 --> 635.22]  I guess.
[635.22 --> 635.82]  I don't know though.
[635.92 --> 636.50]  Yeah, I have no idea.
[636.60 --> 637.76]  Samsung could definitely be it too.
[637.94 --> 642.46]  I've seen it on Hacker News a few times, which is why I, I want to go with that.
[642.98 --> 643.20]  Yeah.
[643.46 --> 647.06]  Are JS Party listeners orange folk too?
[648.16 --> 648.98]  I don't know.
[649.42 --> 650.36]  There's got to be one.
[650.68 --> 651.00]  Yeah.
[651.30 --> 652.06]  That's a good question.
[652.66 --> 653.46]  There has to be one.
[653.56 --> 653.68]  Yeah.
[653.68 --> 654.44]  All right, pick one.
[654.52 --> 655.08]  Let's move on.
[655.38 --> 655.82]  What do you got?
[656.14 --> 656.58]  Vivaldi.
[656.58 --> 659.72]  Vivaldi is that number five.
[659.80 --> 660.58]  Show me Vivaldi.
[661.86 --> 662.38]  Yeah.
[665.38 --> 666.64]  I told you.
[667.02 --> 667.48]  Yes.
[667.86 --> 669.46]  Five JS Party listeners.
[669.76 --> 670.12]  Five.
[670.26 --> 672.10]  Five people use Vivaldi.
[673.28 --> 674.22]  Five out of 140.
[674.68 --> 674.82]  Yeah.
[674.88 --> 675.88]  Who bills Vivaldi?
[676.16 --> 678.26]  Did they get all the points for the entire round?
[678.40 --> 680.52]  They stole 137 points on that.
[680.52 --> 680.70]  What?
[680.76 --> 681.82]  We made those points.
[682.16 --> 684.08]  Well, anybody can guess the other browsers.
[684.08 --> 689.16]  I went out on a limb with edge, I felt like.
[689.32 --> 691.96]  It was the third one I wrote down when I was writing down browsers here.
[692.24 --> 692.78]  There you go.
[693.22 --> 693.58]  Amazing.
[694.24 --> 694.58]  All right.
[694.62 --> 697.10]  So after round one, we have team syntax with a steal.
[697.64 --> 698.30]  137 to nothing.
[698.38 --> 699.86]  There's lots of game left to play.
[699.96 --> 704.82]  So we now go to round two, a face off between Chris and Scott.
[706.42 --> 707.76]  Let's hope it's about browsers again.
[707.76 --> 710.48]  So we gave Amelia the first guess last round.
[710.56 --> 712.10]  So we're going to give Scott the first guess.
[712.26 --> 714.68]  And if you don't hit number one, then Chris will have a chance.
[715.94 --> 723.94]  We asked 140 of our fascinating JS Party listeners, name a tool or technology that you use, but don't fully understand.
[724.60 --> 725.08]  Okay.
[725.78 --> 726.90]  But don't understand.
[727.36 --> 728.42]  Use, but don't understand.
[728.42 --> 732.70]  I am going to say it is.
[733.94 --> 735.48]  I have a lot of options here.
[735.62 --> 736.56]  Let's just say.
[738.96 --> 740.40]  Let's say Webpack.
[740.64 --> 741.48]  That's a good answer.
[741.88 --> 743.00]  Show me Webpack.
[743.86 --> 745.16]  Number one answer.
[745.22 --> 745.66]  Nice.
[746.44 --> 747.04]  I knew it.
[747.04 --> 747.54]  Damn it.
[748.10 --> 748.90]  I knew it.
[748.96 --> 749.16]  Hold on.
[749.16 --> 749.86]  I had to close my door.
[749.92 --> 751.58]  My wife texted me what's going on.
[754.14 --> 755.50]  You're having too much fun.
[755.50 --> 756.42]  All right.
[756.54 --> 760.82]  So with that, Scott takes the round and team syntax will play.
[760.94 --> 765.84]  Now there's five answers on the board of which you have taken the number one answer.
[765.90 --> 766.96]  So there's four left.
[767.16 --> 769.02]  And we go now to Divya.
[769.30 --> 772.28]  So this is front end frameworks people don't understand.
[772.48 --> 773.30]  Let me read it again.
[773.46 --> 777.32]  Name a tool or technology that you use, but don't fully understand.
[778.60 --> 779.08]  Hmm.
[780.14 --> 783.84]  A tool or technology that people use that they don't understand.
[783.84 --> 785.84]  Oh, man.
[785.88 --> 787.66]  This is like a very open-ended question.
[787.88 --> 788.94]  You know, like Webpack.
[789.54 --> 790.60]  Like Webpack.
[790.94 --> 791.34]  Yes.
[791.70 --> 793.80]  I'm so impressed that you got that, Scott.
[794.30 --> 794.62]  I know.
[795.00 --> 796.30]  I have a lot of options here.
[797.32 --> 797.94]  All right, Divya.
[798.00 --> 798.62]  We need an answer.
[800.02 --> 801.58]  I want to say.
[803.16 --> 805.34]  What's another tool that's similar to Webpack?
[806.24 --> 807.28]  Oh, Snowpack.
[807.76 --> 809.00]  Show me Snowpack.
[809.00 --> 809.44]  Snowpack.
[810.84 --> 811.24]  Oh.
[812.02 --> 813.48]  Not enough users of Snowpack.
[813.72 --> 815.44]  Sorry, Snowpack was not on the list.
[815.56 --> 816.54]  Okay, Wes, we go to you.
[816.94 --> 817.30]  Redux.
[817.76 --> 818.36]  That's a good guess.
[818.56 --> 820.40]  I like that one, but did it make the list?
[821.70 --> 822.06]  What?
[822.50 --> 822.90]  What?
[823.38 --> 824.64]  I guess everyone knows Redux.
[824.68 --> 826.78]  That was almost one of my number ones here.
[827.34 --> 827.48]  Oh.
[827.98 --> 831.34]  We got two strikes and you still have four answers left on the board.
[831.42 --> 832.58]  We go back to Scott now.
[833.46 --> 833.74]  Docker.
[834.32 --> 835.52]  Oh, that's a good one.
[835.66 --> 836.22]  Show me Docker.
[836.22 --> 836.78]  Docker.
[837.68 --> 840.44]  Number two answer, Docker with 12 respondents.
[840.44 --> 843.66]  All right, I guess I got to go to CICD now.
[846.76 --> 847.12]  Kubernetes.
[847.52 --> 848.72]  This is probably wrong.
[849.08 --> 851.42]  I grouped that with Docker because there are people answering both.
[851.50 --> 853.02]  So those are together, Docker and Kubernetes.
[853.30 --> 854.66]  Oh, I had Kubernetes on my list too.
[854.78 --> 854.98]  Yeah.
[855.18 --> 857.08]  They're very different tools, I will say.
[857.14 --> 859.28]  I know they are, but people were mixing and matching them.
[859.40 --> 860.86]  So please pick another one.
[865.18 --> 865.94]  Let's see.
[866.22 --> 867.66]  I can't believe Redux was one.
[867.76 --> 867.96]  Yeah.
[868.28 --> 871.64]  Can I just say CI or does it have to be a tool?
[872.22 --> 873.36]  A tool or technology?
[873.70 --> 875.76]  Is CI a technology technically?
[876.18 --> 876.68]  I think so.
[876.74 --> 878.28]  It's in that concept?
[878.82 --> 879.54]  I think it is.
[880.08 --> 880.56]  CICD.
[880.94 --> 881.30]  All right.
[881.66 --> 882.86]  Show me CICD.
[884.72 --> 885.12]  Oh.
[885.20 --> 885.88]  Oh, man.
[885.94 --> 887.02]  That's surprising, actually.
[887.14 --> 888.40]  There's no way they'll steal this.
[888.64 --> 889.12]  That's okay.
[889.20 --> 889.54]  No sweat.
[889.56 --> 891.74]  There's no way everyone understands CICD.
[892.20 --> 893.28]  But maybe they don't use it.
[893.28 --> 893.54]  Yeah.
[893.84 --> 896.56]  It's a technology that you use, but don't fully understand.
[896.80 --> 897.92]  Maybe they don't think about it.
[898.00 --> 898.58]  Come on.
[899.76 --> 900.12]  Deployments.
[900.38 --> 901.12]  Maybe they do.
[901.20 --> 901.96]  Maybe they don't.
[902.60 --> 903.02]  All right.
[903.12 --> 906.44]  Team Shop Talk can confer on a chance to steal.
[906.96 --> 907.36]  Okay.
[907.52 --> 907.88]  Okay.
[908.00 --> 909.76]  We've got a couple of possible options.
[909.88 --> 911.62]  You've got three possibilities here.
[911.92 --> 913.00]  I've got thoughts, too.
[913.10 --> 917.38]  I feel like the troll answer is to just say CSS, because people like to be like, I don't
[917.38 --> 918.08]  understand.
[918.58 --> 918.76]  You know?
[918.80 --> 919.06]  Ooh.
[919.24 --> 919.54]  Okay.
[919.70 --> 920.00]  Okay.
[920.12 --> 920.36]  Okay.
[920.36 --> 920.68]  Okay.
[920.98 --> 921.10]  Yeah.
[921.22 --> 924.22]  And then the one that you probably actually don't understand is Git.
[924.90 --> 925.30]  Oh.
[925.82 --> 926.98]  That's for sure on there.
[927.28 --> 928.28]  Oh, man.
[928.72 --> 928.96]  Yeah.
[929.16 --> 930.32]  But those are just ideas.
[930.46 --> 930.84]  You know, whatever.
[931.02 --> 931.94]  I had Git, too.
[932.02 --> 933.52]  I also had Bash.
[933.86 --> 935.52]  JavaScript is a troll answer, too.
[935.68 --> 936.08]  Bash.
[936.08 --> 936.52]  Okay.
[937.04 --> 937.44]  JavaScript is good.
[937.60 --> 937.96]  Bash.
[937.96 --> 941.72]  Bash and Babel, which I don't know about.
[942.04 --> 942.56]  Oh, Babel.
[942.56 --> 943.86]  Oh, I just thought of one.
[944.60 --> 945.44]  What do you think, team?
[945.44 --> 946.20]  You can say it.
[946.40 --> 947.64]  No, I'm not saying it.
[948.10 --> 949.68]  I'm going to message Wes.
[949.84 --> 954.82]  I had like server lists and stuff like that, but I think I like Git.
[954.98 --> 955.48]  I like Git.
[955.60 --> 956.88]  Or, yeah.
[957.34 --> 958.12]  What do you think, Amelia?
[958.72 --> 959.46]  I like Git.
[959.78 --> 960.12]  Okay.
[960.20 --> 960.64]  I like Git.
[960.64 --> 961.50]  We're going to go with Git.
[961.50 --> 962.14]  All right.
[962.22 --> 964.46]  For the steal, show me Git.
[965.54 --> 966.02]  Yeah.
[966.60 --> 966.96]  Yeah.
[966.96 --> 967.40]  Yeah.
[967.52 --> 968.14]  Big steal.
[968.20 --> 969.24]  It's a game of steals.
[969.62 --> 973.56]  That's the number four answer with eight respondents saying Git.
[973.86 --> 974.30]  Interesting.
[974.50 --> 975.72]  So there's a missing three.
[975.90 --> 976.94]  Number three was React.
[977.42 --> 977.76]  Yeah.
[978.08 --> 978.38]  Oh.
[978.62 --> 978.80]  Okay.
[979.24 --> 981.28]  And number five was NPM.
[981.96 --> 982.40]  Oh.
[982.72 --> 983.20]  Fair enough.
[983.64 --> 983.80]  Yeah.
[983.80 --> 985.04]  A couple of honorable mentions.
[985.22 --> 987.48]  I'm actually surprised no one's at Regex.
[987.68 --> 988.96]  Oh, that would have been good.
[988.98 --> 989.64]  That's a good one.
[990.08 --> 990.72]  Or Redis.
[990.80 --> 991.42]  Thought about it.
[991.56 --> 992.86]  Tools that make me fall asleep.
[993.02 --> 995.02]  But if you don't knew it, maybe you just don't use it.
[995.24 --> 995.52]  Maybe.
[995.52 --> 997.34]  Chris, four people said CSS.
[997.56 --> 998.60]  It just barely missed the board.
[998.74 --> 999.12]  Oh, okay.
[999.30 --> 1000.32]  Three people said Node.
[1000.46 --> 1004.70]  Two people said Dependency Injection, which I think you should know how it works before
[1004.70 --> 1005.18]  you use that one.
[1005.58 --> 1007.06]  And one person said PHP.
[1007.24 --> 1010.54]  And then in parentheses, they said, I don't think anyone will ever fully understand PHP.
[1011.00 --> 1011.22]  Oh.
[1012.22 --> 1012.66]  Okay.
[1012.66 --> 1014.34]  So some commentary there.
[1014.54 --> 1015.24]  It's all WordPress.
[1017.02 --> 1017.34]  Yeah.
[1017.64 --> 1018.50]  Just use WordPress.
[1019.00 --> 1019.20]  Cool.
[1019.32 --> 1019.88]  That was fun.
[1020.30 --> 1020.58]  All right.
[1020.62 --> 1021.64]  So let me add these up here.
[1021.70 --> 1022.40]  So nice steal.
[1022.74 --> 1023.08]  Cool.
[1023.66 --> 1024.74]  And that is.
[1024.84 --> 1025.74]  So is it one to one?
[1025.82 --> 1026.54]  Is that how it works?
[1026.74 --> 1027.06]  No.
[1027.24 --> 1028.38]  We're still winning by far.
[1028.50 --> 1029.12]  It's points.
[1029.24 --> 1030.04]  It's points based.
[1030.14 --> 1032.06]  But I'll tell you the last rounds, the points double.
[1032.16 --> 1033.86]  So there's usually a chance to come back near the end.
[1034.16 --> 1034.24]  Double.
[1034.68 --> 1034.92]  Okay.
[1034.96 --> 1036.10]  So you've stolen 63.
[1036.24 --> 1037.66]  There were 63 points available that round.
[1037.66 --> 1041.18]  So currently Syntax is still in the lead, 137 to 63.
[1041.44 --> 1042.94]  But everyone's playing quite well.
[1042.94 --> 1043.22]  Nice.
[1043.22 --> 1043.92]  Quite within reach.
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[1141.80 --> 1146.92]  Let's move to round three, which is going to be Dave versus Wes.
[1149.12 --> 1153.86]  Now, Team Syntax got the guest first last round, so we'll go to Dave for the first guest.
[1154.44 --> 1161.82]  We asked 140 brilliant JS Party listeners, what's something you do to reach a state of dev flow?
[1163.26 --> 1163.92]  Yes, Dave.
[1166.40 --> 1166.84]  Music.
[1166.98 --> 1168.16]  Do I need to be more specific?
[1168.54 --> 1170.22]  Like electronic music?
[1170.22 --> 1170.34]  Music.
[1170.44 --> 1171.38]  Music's just fine.
[1171.58 --> 1172.50]  Show me music.
[1173.86 --> 1174.94]  Number one answer.
[1175.56 --> 1178.20]  66 people say they listen to music.
[1178.30 --> 1182.24]  They also had a bunch of different kinds of genres and stuff, but I just combined them
[1182.24 --> 1182.54]  all together.
[1182.74 --> 1184.60]  So that's Team Shop Talk.
[1184.68 --> 1186.08]  You guys get to play this round.
[1186.26 --> 1187.32]  You already have the number one answer.
[1187.44 --> 1190.08]  There are five total answers, four left on the board.
[1190.32 --> 1191.04]  Freaking A.
[1191.24 --> 1192.24]  And we go to Amelia.
[1194.00 --> 1197.74]  What something people do to reach a state of dev flow?
[1198.38 --> 1199.68]  I drink a lot of coffee.
[1200.22 --> 1201.84]  It's going to be totally on there.
[1201.84 --> 1202.30]  Good answer.
[1202.38 --> 1202.92]  Good answer.
[1203.04 --> 1203.64]  Good answer.
[1203.78 --> 1204.42]  Good answer.
[1204.58 --> 1205.08]  Good answer.
[1205.20 --> 1206.50]  Show me drink coffee.
[1208.02 --> 1209.22]  Number four answer.
[1209.38 --> 1209.92]  Good job.
[1210.20 --> 1210.42]  Wow.
[1210.52 --> 1210.78]  Four.
[1211.06 --> 1212.74]  That's generally drinking things.
[1212.82 --> 1213.32]  Drink coffee.
[1213.42 --> 1214.24]  People said drink tea.
[1214.40 --> 1215.40]  Drink energy drinks.
[1215.68 --> 1217.36]  That's worth nine points.
[1217.50 --> 1218.08]  So good one.
[1218.56 --> 1221.26]  And now it is Chris's turn.
[1221.82 --> 1223.86]  I am just dying here.
[1225.00 --> 1225.94]  Dev flow.
[1226.16 --> 1226.42]  Right?
[1226.42 --> 1227.32]  What do you do?
[1228.04 --> 1230.02]  That's like a common thing that you do.
[1230.54 --> 1233.90]  Is there something like move locations?
[1234.46 --> 1236.60]  Is that too vague?
[1236.72 --> 1238.42]  Like go to a coffee shop?
[1239.42 --> 1240.20]  Somewhat vague.
[1240.46 --> 1241.08]  Too vague.
[1241.18 --> 1241.64]  Too vague.
[1242.20 --> 1243.30]  Shut the door.
[1243.72 --> 1244.64]  Shut the door.
[1245.66 --> 1246.42]  Show me.
[1246.62 --> 1247.30]  Shut the door.
[1247.30 --> 1249.88]  I will give it to you.
[1249.98 --> 1250.30]  Wow.
[1250.78 --> 1251.14]  Nice.
[1251.86 --> 1254.80]  This is a category of things where people said remove distractions.
[1255.10 --> 1256.26]  Go to do not disturb.
[1257.54 --> 1258.28]  Close the door.
[1258.40 --> 1259.94]  Have a quiet place, what people were saying.
[1260.10 --> 1261.50]  So I'll give you that one.
[1261.82 --> 1264.62]  I feel like Wes clued them in when he closed the door.
[1264.72 --> 1264.98]  Yeah.
[1265.12 --> 1265.48]  Yeah.
[1266.48 --> 1266.68]  Yeah.
[1266.68 --> 1267.68]  He definitely helped.
[1267.82 --> 1269.16]  Sinking my own ship here.
[1269.36 --> 1271.00]  Wes is really in dev flow right now.
[1271.58 --> 1273.38]  So that was 26 points.
[1273.42 --> 1274.24]  That's the number two answer.
[1274.24 --> 1276.16]  So you have one, two, and four.
[1276.44 --> 1278.90]  So three and five are still on the board.
[1278.90 --> 1281.76]  And that puts us back to Dave.
[1282.20 --> 1282.94]  Oh boy.
[1283.88 --> 1285.42]  Blocking time on your calendar?
[1285.82 --> 1288.04]  That was part of the remove distractions one.
[1288.30 --> 1288.52]  Yeah.
[1288.70 --> 1290.12]  Well, I need a new one.
[1290.28 --> 1293.28]  And my next one is not good.
[1295.78 --> 1296.40]  Let's see.
[1298.10 --> 1299.84]  You got to have your hot chip.
[1300.10 --> 1300.76]  Hot chip.
[1301.82 --> 1302.26]  Snacks.
[1302.84 --> 1304.06]  Got to have snacks.
[1304.24 --> 1305.46]  I was like, what's hot chip?
[1305.70 --> 1305.86]  Yeah.
[1306.20 --> 1307.32]  Show me snacks.
[1309.98 --> 1311.20]  That's your first miss.
[1311.80 --> 1312.54]  So you're doing well.
[1312.80 --> 1314.04]  You have two misses left.
[1314.76 --> 1316.88]  And it is now Amelia's turn.
[1318.50 --> 1320.96]  Amelia, what's something you do to reach the state of dev flow?
[1321.36 --> 1322.60]  I definitely eat hot chips.
[1324.04 --> 1324.64]  Hot chip.
[1325.20 --> 1326.16]  That's hot chip.
[1326.28 --> 1328.64]  Hot chip is hot chip.
[1328.64 --> 1331.52]  I guess if not that.
[1331.52 --> 1331.54]  I guess if not that.
[1331.86 --> 1337.44]  You wanted Chris to be more clear about his going to places thing.
[1337.98 --> 1343.64]  So I'm going to go with a specific place, which is going to your desk.
[1344.10 --> 1345.30]  Going to your desk.
[1345.40 --> 1346.12]  I don't like that face.
[1346.52 --> 1347.76]  Show me going to your desk.
[1347.76 --> 1354.78]  Maybe just a little bit too on the nose, but a good effort.
[1355.40 --> 1356.68]  Can we go back to Chris?
[1356.98 --> 1359.30]  It sounds like none of these are related to technology.
[1359.50 --> 1363.84]  None of them is like, like troll around for cool VS code extensions or whatever.
[1364.06 --> 1364.94]  Go on Twitter.
[1365.60 --> 1366.78]  Is that how you get in flow?
[1366.98 --> 1368.72]  Oh, just installing plugins.
[1368.96 --> 1370.68]  Twitter is the exact opposite of flow.
[1370.68 --> 1372.52]  Yeah, I know how to get out of flow.
[1372.64 --> 1373.40]  Can we do that one?
[1375.10 --> 1376.00]  Like YouTube.
[1378.54 --> 1381.42]  I'm going to go with put on sweatpants.
[1382.38 --> 1382.78]  Yeah.
[1383.24 --> 1383.92]  Good answer.
[1384.00 --> 1384.42]  Good answer.
[1384.56 --> 1385.08]  Good answer.
[1385.18 --> 1385.62]  Good answer.
[1386.62 --> 1387.92]  I'm going to give you that one.
[1388.50 --> 1388.86]  Oh.
[1389.78 --> 1392.02]  This is a combination of prepare yourself.
[1392.16 --> 1397.00]  So there was like get the room set up, good posture, sleep first, put on certain clothes.
[1397.06 --> 1398.90]  People said I'll put on like comfy clothes.
[1398.98 --> 1399.78]  So that's why I'm giving it to you.
[1399.78 --> 1403.50]  So that's 10 points, which means there's one left.
[1403.62 --> 1409.66]  Number five is still out there and you have one strike left and Dave has a chance at it.
[1409.72 --> 1410.32]  Go ahead, Dave.
[1410.70 --> 1411.00]  Okay.
[1411.04 --> 1411.56]  So recap.
[1411.70 --> 1412.42]  We've done music.
[1412.56 --> 1414.28]  We've done get comfy.
[1414.68 --> 1416.40]  We've done remove distractions.
[1416.88 --> 1417.18]  Coffee.
[1417.38 --> 1418.32]  Remove distractions.
[1418.56 --> 1418.68]  Yeah.
[1418.76 --> 1419.70]  We've done coffee.
[1420.22 --> 1421.34]  And there's one more.
[1421.50 --> 1422.22]  There is one more.
[1422.60 --> 1423.34]  Turn off email.
[1423.52 --> 1424.56]  Is that send distractions?
[1424.58 --> 1425.20]  That's remove distractions.
[1425.56 --> 1425.70]  Yep.
[1426.90 --> 1427.84]  Oh boy.
[1427.84 --> 1429.52]  I'm so sorry, Dave.
[1429.78 --> 1430.44]  It's tough.
[1431.14 --> 1431.94]  Go for a walk.
[1432.60 --> 1433.28]  Show me.
[1433.50 --> 1434.50]  Go for a walk.
[1436.24 --> 1437.62]  Oh, that was on my list.
[1437.96 --> 1439.02]  Oh man.
[1439.26 --> 1439.76]  All right.
[1439.80 --> 1440.58]  We get to steal.
[1440.80 --> 1441.34]  All right.
[1441.50 --> 1442.14]  Chance to steal.
[1442.26 --> 1443.38]  I'll tell you, this is a tough one.
[1443.46 --> 1444.76]  So you got your work cut out for you.
[1445.16 --> 1446.00]  All right, guys.
[1446.08 --> 1446.90]  What are you thinking?
[1447.22 --> 1449.14]  I had like put on headphones or something.
[1449.14 --> 1449.44]  Yeah.
[1449.44 --> 1453.34]  I was going to say like noise canceling headphones, white noise.
[1453.58 --> 1454.32]  White noise.
[1454.52 --> 1454.70]  Yeah.
[1454.86 --> 1455.30]  Exercise.
[1456.10 --> 1456.50]  Meditate.
[1457.00 --> 1457.40]  Meditate.
[1457.48 --> 1458.14]  I had meditate.
[1458.76 --> 1462.48]  Although somebody did say go for a walk, which like could be constituted as exercise
[1462.48 --> 1462.90]  maybe.
[1463.12 --> 1463.28]  So.
[1463.52 --> 1463.92]  Yeah.
[1464.50 --> 1467.20]  Meditate or like noise canceling headphones.
[1467.74 --> 1467.98]  Yeah.
[1468.28 --> 1469.14]  Wait, was noise canceling?
[1469.88 --> 1470.02]  Yeah.
[1470.06 --> 1472.30]  Was noise canceling headphones removing distractions though?
[1472.38 --> 1473.94]  Is that part of the whole like umbrella?
[1474.20 --> 1474.52]  Yeah.
[1474.52 --> 1476.92]  I had that as my very first one on the list.
[1477.04 --> 1477.28]  Yeah.
[1477.46 --> 1480.24]  I'm going to say that's part of remove distractions because it's kind of like get quiet.
[1480.24 --> 1480.44]  Okay.
[1480.80 --> 1481.04]  Yeah.
[1481.38 --> 1483.14]  So we got white noise.
[1483.34 --> 1486.46]  I have full screen, which would probably also remove distractions.
[1487.22 --> 1487.42]  Yeah.
[1487.78 --> 1488.58]  Blocker apps.
[1489.06 --> 1489.88]  That's part of that.
[1490.06 --> 1490.62]  Blocker apps.
[1490.72 --> 1491.22]  Remove distractions.
[1491.38 --> 1491.78]  Meditate.
[1491.90 --> 1492.84]  White noise.
[1493.26 --> 1494.56]  What do people do to focus?
[1495.08 --> 1498.30]  I'm trying to think of all like the Tim Ferriss productivity hacks.
[1499.30 --> 1500.24]  Morning routine.
[1500.40 --> 1504.50]  I have like a go to coffee shop as one of my things on my list.
[1504.52 --> 1505.24]  Oh, yeah.
[1505.26 --> 1506.50]  Which is going somewhere.
[1506.90 --> 1508.78]  Oh, you mean like working at the coffee shop or like.
[1508.78 --> 1512.56]  Just going to the coffee shop because that's what I do when I like really can't focus.
[1512.98 --> 1514.42]  I think that's under coffee.
[1514.82 --> 1515.06]  Yeah.
[1515.06 --> 1516.06]  That one was kind of broached.
[1516.06 --> 1519.76]  I think both with your environment and there's a drink coffee.
[1520.10 --> 1520.40]  Gotcha.
[1520.92 --> 1521.80]  I think meditate.
[1522.02 --> 1522.26]  Okay.
[1522.40 --> 1523.08]  Maybe meditate.
[1523.36 --> 1523.56]  Yeah.
[1523.66 --> 1523.92]  Yeah.
[1524.28 --> 1525.14]  I don't have anything else.
[1525.34 --> 1526.56]  Let's just hail Mary it.
[1526.88 --> 1527.10]  Yeah.
[1527.68 --> 1529.04]  Show me meditate.
[1530.54 --> 1531.44]  Oh, man.
[1531.66 --> 1532.42]  I thought that was it.
[1532.44 --> 1533.94]  Meditate didn't make the list.
[1533.94 --> 1535.14]  Good for us.
[1535.30 --> 1536.10]  What happens now?
[1536.30 --> 1536.36]  Not really.
[1536.36 --> 1536.94]  But I also have.
[1537.02 --> 1537.80]  I have no idea.
[1538.06 --> 1539.22]  I want to know that answer.
[1539.48 --> 1539.98]  This one.
[1540.12 --> 1541.20]  I would not have guessed this.
[1541.40 --> 1543.72]  Five people say they listen to podcasts.
[1544.18 --> 1544.44]  Oh.
[1544.44 --> 1544.54]  Oh.
[1544.54 --> 1544.84]  Oh.
[1545.04 --> 1545.44]  That's true.
[1545.96 --> 1546.32]  Okay.
[1546.50 --> 1547.94]  Here we are on a podcast.
[1548.38 --> 1548.90]  I do that.
[1549.02 --> 1549.18]  Yeah.
[1549.90 --> 1552.52]  That's kind of refreshing that at least five people listen to podcasts.
[1552.66 --> 1553.06]  That's right.
[1553.26 --> 1553.68]  Thank you all.
[1555.28 --> 1557.76]  And one specifically said listen to the JS Party podcast.
[1557.98 --> 1559.56]  I said, oh, I appreciate that call out.
[1559.58 --> 1559.86]  Oh.
[1560.06 --> 1560.58]  That's nice.
[1560.58 --> 1561.72]  Happy to help you get in the flow.
[1561.92 --> 1562.98]  That's the opposite for me.
[1563.04 --> 1564.12]  Like, I don't want to listen to podcasts.
[1564.12 --> 1564.62]  No, I do.
[1565.00 --> 1569.14]  You know what I actually do is like do something that you're in the mood to do.
[1569.32 --> 1569.60]  You know?
[1569.66 --> 1573.08]  Like if I'm like, I'm going to do, I just feel like coding on this thing.
[1573.08 --> 1573.20]  Right.
[1573.20 --> 1576.38]  Then I'll get flow because I'm like not fighting against what I want to do.
[1576.42 --> 1576.78]  But how do you.
[1576.78 --> 1577.12]  Right.
[1577.74 --> 1579.24]  Work on something that you feel like working on.
[1579.38 --> 1579.56]  Yeah.
[1579.56 --> 1582.24]  Where was wander around Home Depot for nine hours?
[1582.44 --> 1582.94]  Where was that?
[1583.10 --> 1584.88]  Was that on the list?
[1584.88 --> 1588.78]  That's funny because one person said procrastinate for 10 hours.
[1589.32 --> 1589.72]  Yes.
[1590.06 --> 1590.30]  Nice.
[1590.86 --> 1592.24]  There's the honesty right there.
[1593.18 --> 1595.44]  And then a few people said drink alcohol or smoke weed.
[1595.52 --> 1596.40]  And I thought, is that?
[1596.54 --> 1598.16]  I've never been in the flow in these states.
[1598.24 --> 1598.58]  I don't know.
[1598.82 --> 1600.58]  Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
[1601.26 --> 1601.72]  All right.
[1601.82 --> 1603.02]  So no steal.
[1603.22 --> 1604.58]  So Shop Talk gets the points.
[1605.06 --> 1610.98]  They missed the last one, but they still managed to score 110 points in the round.
[1611.60 --> 1612.36]  Oh, wow.
[1612.54 --> 1614.28]  That's going to kick us to the lead for sure.
[1614.28 --> 1615.50]  Major League Comeback.
[1615.60 --> 1621.30]  After three rounds, we have Syntax with 137 and Shop Talk with 173.
[1621.44 --> 1622.32]  Oh, what?
[1622.88 --> 1623.96]  Balance restored.
[1624.46 --> 1625.26]  Balance restored.
[1625.70 --> 1626.22]  There we go.
[1626.84 --> 1628.62]  We now move to round four.
[1628.78 --> 1630.66]  Stop giving them easy questions.
[1631.02 --> 1631.20]  Yeah.
[1632.32 --> 1634.56]  This is called the inverted round.
[1636.54 --> 1639.74]  This round works a little bit different than our previous rounds.
[1639.82 --> 1640.62]  There's no face off.
[1640.74 --> 1642.86]  It's just a back and forth between the two teams.
[1642.86 --> 1644.40]  So we just rotate back and forth.
[1645.12 --> 1648.22]  And you're trying to match the board, but it's inverted.
[1648.42 --> 1651.74]  So you want to match the bottom of the board, not the top of the board.
[1651.78 --> 1651.98]  Whoa.
[1652.24 --> 1652.58]  Okay?
[1652.58 --> 1658.50]  So there are six things on the board, and the bottom one gets 60 points, and the top
[1658.50 --> 1659.24]  gets 10 points.
[1659.30 --> 1660.62]  There's lots of points to be had.
[1660.80 --> 1663.28]  But you want to match the board, but at the bottom.
[1663.64 --> 1663.92]  Okay?
[1663.92 --> 1673.24]  So we asked 140 handsome JS Party listeners, name your favorite HTML element.
[1673.88 --> 1676.48]  There are six common answers.
[1677.48 --> 1681.08]  And since Team Syntax is losing, we'll let them go first.
[1681.82 --> 1683.70]  And we'll start with Divya.
[1683.84 --> 1687.74]  Divya, name a favorite HTML element.
[1687.84 --> 1689.70]  Remember, you do not want to have the most favorite.
[1689.88 --> 1691.64]  I'm trying to think of the bottom ones.
[1691.64 --> 1692.72]  Oh, my God.
[1693.04 --> 1694.88]  And we'll have no conferring during this time.
[1694.96 --> 1698.48]  Yeah, but you don't want the ones that are, like, so far gone.
[1698.86 --> 1700.50]  You want the sixth most popular element.
[1700.50 --> 1700.88]  That's right.
[1701.00 --> 1702.86]  Four, five, and six are the sweet spot.
[1703.14 --> 1703.30]  Yeah.
[1703.38 --> 1703.68]  Yeah.
[1704.14 --> 1705.58]  I'm thinking Span.
[1706.04 --> 1706.40]  Mm.
[1707.52 --> 1708.58]  That's what I would have said.
[1708.82 --> 1710.10]  Show me Span.
[1711.46 --> 1712.30]  Oh, sorry.
[1712.38 --> 1713.46]  Span didn't make the board.
[1713.68 --> 1714.40]  Who don't like Span?
[1714.56 --> 1715.92]  No one likes Span.
[1716.32 --> 1717.54]  It's all these React developers.
[1718.12 --> 1719.22]  It has to be your favorite.
[1719.22 --> 1720.68]  Yeah, exactly.
[1720.94 --> 1721.10]  Yeah.
[1721.88 --> 1724.26]  All these React devs just using divs for everything.
[1724.52 --> 1724.62]  Yeah.
[1724.66 --> 1725.58]  No, seriously.
[1725.80 --> 1728.74]  Why Span when you can I or div inline block?
[1728.96 --> 1729.30]  To I.
[1731.22 --> 1732.26]  Div inline block.
[1732.32 --> 1732.64]  Love it.
[1733.04 --> 1733.32]  Okay.
[1733.36 --> 1734.86]  We go over to Team Shop Talk.
[1734.94 --> 1737.70]  Let's have Amelia name a favorite HTML element.
[1738.22 --> 1744.22]  Oh, it might be way too obscure, but I know it's got some fans out there.
[1744.22 --> 1746.40]  We're going to go with marquee.
[1747.70 --> 1749.36]  Show me marquee.
[1749.36 --> 1750.08]  Good answer.
[1750.18 --> 1750.64]  Good answer.
[1750.82 --> 1751.14]  Yeah.
[1751.36 --> 1752.28]  Well done.
[1752.50 --> 1752.80]  Nice.
[1752.86 --> 1753.40]  Good answer.
[1753.48 --> 1755.30]  That's the number two answer, actually.
[1755.56 --> 1756.30]  So it's highest support.
[1756.30 --> 1756.54]  Oh, my God.
[1756.92 --> 1757.94]  Not obscure.
[1758.44 --> 1759.90]  Turns out it's not that obscure.
[1760.56 --> 1762.52]  So you get 20 points for that one.
[1763.36 --> 1765.16]  And we go back now to syntax.
[1766.10 --> 1766.92]  And we'll have Scott.
[1766.92 --> 1771.32]  Um, let's think here about HTML elements.
[1772.04 --> 1773.48]  What elements do I like a lot?
[1773.98 --> 1774.52]  Let's see.
[1775.04 --> 1775.32]  Button.
[1775.82 --> 1776.66]  Show me button.
[1778.04 --> 1779.46]  Number three answer, button.
[1779.52 --> 1780.04]  Whoa.
[1780.54 --> 1780.76]  Good.
[1781.38 --> 1782.94]  So we get 30 points for that one.
[1783.84 --> 1784.70]  Well played.
[1784.80 --> 1787.30]  So now number two and number three are taken, marquee and button.
[1787.48 --> 1790.68]  So number one, four, five, and six are still out there.
[1791.32 --> 1793.18]  And we go now to Chris.
[1794.04 --> 1794.38]  Okay.
[1794.38 --> 1795.82]  So we're just going back and forth here.
[1795.92 --> 1796.50]  That's another win.
[1796.50 --> 1797.60]  Yeah, we're just going to go back and forth.
[1797.96 --> 1798.22]  Okay.
[1799.02 --> 1800.22]  Two of six have been answered.
[1800.68 --> 1803.50]  And one's going to be, why would I give you answers?
[1803.62 --> 1804.20]  I'm not going to do that.
[1805.78 --> 1807.90]  I'm going to hope that A is on the list.
[1808.12 --> 1809.38]  A, the anchor element.
[1809.62 --> 1811.10]  Show me A.
[1813.16 --> 1813.52]  Whoa.
[1814.06 --> 1814.86]  That checks out.
[1814.92 --> 1815.96]  It's a JavaScript podcast.
[1818.36 --> 1819.40]  Use a div for that.
[1820.06 --> 1821.08]  Use a div with a link.
[1821.08 --> 1824.56]  I'll just say, personally, A is my favorite element, personally.
[1824.78 --> 1825.92]  Unclick as an attribute?
[1825.92 --> 1826.60]  Yeah.
[1827.04 --> 1828.08]  Div with an on click, yeah.
[1828.38 --> 1828.80]  On click.
[1829.10 --> 1830.16]  Div with an on click.
[1830.96 --> 1833.28]  I think we all are hovering around number one.
[1833.40 --> 1833.58]  Okay.
[1833.70 --> 1837.66]  So we go from Chris over to Wes on Team Syntax.
[1838.18 --> 1839.40]  I'm going to go paragraph tag.
[1839.94 --> 1840.82]  Paragraph tag.
[1841.16 --> 1841.86]  Is it popular?
[1842.70 --> 1843.64]  It is.
[1843.72 --> 1844.06]  Nice.
[1844.38 --> 1845.90]  That's the number five answer.
[1846.10 --> 1846.38]  Yay.
[1846.84 --> 1848.30]  Points, points, points, points.
[1848.30 --> 1848.62]  Points.
[1848.62 --> 1851.72]  So you score a whopping 50 points on that.
[1852.10 --> 1852.50]  Dang.
[1852.50 --> 1853.06]  50?
[1853.32 --> 1853.70]  Yes.
[1853.94 --> 1855.20]  Oh, that probably put us ahead.
[1855.66 --> 1856.26]  Yeah, Wes.
[1856.42 --> 1859.32]  Don't you want to get less points for some reason on this weird round?
[1859.90 --> 1861.68]  So that was Wes.
[1861.72 --> 1864.24]  Now we're looping back around to Amelia.
[1864.90 --> 1865.78]  It's Dave's turn.
[1866.32 --> 1867.06]  No, yeah, you're right.
[1867.16 --> 1867.58]  Dave's turn.
[1867.70 --> 1868.08]  Sorry, Dave.
[1868.38 --> 1875.56]  We need something less popular than P, but more popular than the Ruby element.
[1876.26 --> 1879.06]  So that's quite a range.
[1880.26 --> 1880.70]  UL.
[1881.48 --> 1882.16]  Oh, my God.
[1882.64 --> 1883.56]  Show me UL.
[1885.18 --> 1885.62]  No.
[1885.62 --> 1886.06]  No.
[1887.14 --> 1888.24]  All that default styling.
[1888.44 --> 1889.98]  I forgot it was a JavaScript podcast.
[1890.62 --> 1891.90]  It's a React podcast now.
[1892.08 --> 1895.42]  Just think, is there anybody out there who thinks, my favorite element is an unordered list?
[1895.46 --> 1895.92]  I just love them.
[1896.54 --> 1903.56]  Divya, now we have to decide if we take the easy known number one or risk it for the biscuit.
[1903.56 --> 1904.12]  I know.
[1904.44 --> 1906.96]  I think we take the easy points, if you're asking me.
[1907.14 --> 1909.28]  We can take the easy one and then go for the later one.
[1909.38 --> 1909.62]  Yeah.
[1909.76 --> 1910.94]  That's probably a good strategy.
[1911.26 --> 1911.52]  Yeah.
[1911.60 --> 1914.18]  You might be sick of the joke, but look at your name.
[1914.84 --> 1915.62]  I know.
[1916.06 --> 1916.26]  Oh.
[1917.40 --> 1918.96]  Clearly, you have a div on the team.
[1919.06 --> 1919.74]  Got to use it.
[1921.66 --> 1923.08]  Show me div, yeah.
[1924.20 --> 1925.12]  Yes, of course.
[1925.20 --> 1926.00]  The number one answer.
[1926.38 --> 1927.24]  Nice job.
[1927.24 --> 1930.70]  With 45 respondents answered with div.
[1931.46 --> 1931.90]  Okay.
[1931.90 --> 1935.84]  Okay, so we now have number one div, number two marquee.
[1936.28 --> 1937.48]  I can't remember the other ones.
[1937.60 --> 1939.24]  Number five, P tag.
[1939.40 --> 1941.12]  I think it was like button and P.
[1941.32 --> 1941.54]  Yeah.
[1941.94 --> 1944.08]  Button is number three, marquee is number two.
[1944.44 --> 1945.08]  Yeah, that's right.
[1945.32 --> 1946.88]  So we're missing four and six.
[1947.22 --> 1947.54]  Okay.
[1947.78 --> 1950.08]  And there's only like 112 elements left.
[1950.08 --> 1950.30]  Yeah.
[1952.30 --> 1955.66]  Each team has one strike, so if you strike out, then we'll end the round.
[1955.76 --> 1957.22]  So you'll have a couple of guesses left.
[1957.72 --> 1959.82]  That was Divya, so now we're back to Amelia, right?
[1959.82 --> 1961.50]  Yeah, I like images.
[1963.08 --> 1965.40]  Kind of obscure, but also very nice.
[1965.40 --> 1965.68]  Okay, let's go.
[1965.84 --> 1966.48]  Let's go.
[1966.70 --> 1967.30]  Let's go.
[1967.48 --> 1968.58]  Show me image.
[1970.00 --> 1970.40]  Oh.
[1971.80 --> 1972.86]  Who doesn't love an image?
[1973.18 --> 1973.30]  No.
[1973.46 --> 1974.82]  I would have thought that would be on.
[1975.02 --> 1975.88]  For sure.
[1976.00 --> 1976.76]  That's a good guess.
[1977.00 --> 1977.22]  Yep.
[1977.60 --> 1978.98]  So two strikes for Shop Talk.
[1979.08 --> 1980.56]  Let's go back over to Syntax.
[1980.62 --> 1981.24]  We're back to Scott.
[1981.74 --> 1982.18]  Favorite.
[1982.18 --> 1982.30]  Favorite.
[1983.78 --> 1984.46]  Let's see.
[1984.70 --> 1985.86]  Consider the Ruby tag.
[1985.94 --> 1986.62]  That's really popular.
[1986.72 --> 1988.44]  Yeah, it is really popular.
[1988.44 --> 1988.84]  I love it.
[1988.84 --> 1990.54]  It's for annotations or something.
[1991.10 --> 1991.58]  Yeah.
[1992.04 --> 1992.44]  Superscript.
[1992.58 --> 1993.06]  That's a good one.
[1993.14 --> 1993.34]  Sup?
[1993.70 --> 1994.98]  The WBO.
[1995.76 --> 1996.62]  WBR, yeah.
[1997.32 --> 1998.36]  Yeah, WBR.
[1998.62 --> 1999.86]  The table element.
[2000.78 --> 2004.20]  Let's say the nav element.
[2004.96 --> 2005.56]  Getting semantic.
[2005.84 --> 2006.56]  Show me nav.
[2007.54 --> 2007.78]  Yeah.
[2008.12 --> 2008.66]  No, thank you.
[2008.78 --> 2009.24]  Sorry.
[2009.24 --> 2009.94]  My bad.
[2010.16 --> 2010.52]  All right.
[2010.56 --> 2012.32]  Each team has one more guess.
[2012.32 --> 2012.74]  All right.
[2012.92 --> 2013.86]  One more correct guess.
[2013.86 --> 2014.60]  So here we go.
[2015.02 --> 2016.78]  Back over to Team Shop Talk.
[2016.84 --> 2017.54]  It's Chris again, right?
[2017.76 --> 2017.98]  Yeah.
[2018.12 --> 2018.42]  Chris.
[2019.46 --> 2022.08]  I'm going to just shout out H1.
[2022.64 --> 2023.64]  Yeah, that was my second guess.
[2023.74 --> 2025.60]  Show us H1.
[2026.54 --> 2027.28]  Oh, wow.
[2027.36 --> 2028.68]  Ah, there's too many elements.
[2029.38 --> 2029.76]  All right.
[2029.78 --> 2030.60]  Here's my last one.
[2030.60 --> 2032.48]  Am I allowed to confer on this one?
[2032.62 --> 2033.04]  No.
[2033.42 --> 2035.08]  For the sake of like a good podcast?
[2035.36 --> 2035.76]  No.
[2036.98 --> 2038.84]  For the sake of good podcasting, no.
[2039.24 --> 2039.84]  Aw.
[2040.42 --> 2040.82]  Uninterested.
[2041.26 --> 2041.54]  Okay.
[2041.70 --> 2043.30]  Well, I'm going to think out loud here.
[2043.42 --> 2048.38]  So I'm either thinking header, footer, or like a body, or HTML.
[2048.62 --> 2049.02]  Oh.
[2049.32 --> 2050.06]  Super meta.
[2050.42 --> 2053.94]  You think people would be sassy enough to say, like, what's your favorite HTML thing?
[2054.00 --> 2054.36]  HTML?
[2055.36 --> 2057.32]  HTML, body, header, footer.
[2058.62 --> 2059.96]  I'm going to say.
[2060.58 --> 2061.34]  There's too many choices.
[2061.82 --> 2062.70]  I'm going to go body.
[2063.28 --> 2064.50]  Part of me wants to say HTML.
[2064.62 --> 2065.44]  I'm saying body, though.
[2065.44 --> 2065.88]  Yeah.
[2066.32 --> 2069.56]  I'll tell you that body was answered by one person.
[2069.66 --> 2070.14]  Oh.
[2070.78 --> 2071.06]  Bing.
[2071.12 --> 2073.34]  Did not make the top six.
[2073.82 --> 2074.24]  Okay.
[2074.36 --> 2074.74]  So.
[2075.08 --> 2075.48]  SVG?
[2075.94 --> 2076.38]  Still.
[2076.70 --> 2077.88]  Pretty good scoring on that round.
[2078.04 --> 2081.12]  Number four most popular element, input.
[2081.84 --> 2082.20]  Oh.
[2082.70 --> 2083.16]  Input.
[2083.16 --> 2083.88]  People like input?
[2084.14 --> 2084.94]  Nobody likes inputs.
[2085.14 --> 2085.42]  Nobody.
[2085.72 --> 2087.48]  Inputs are the worst style.
[2087.64 --> 2087.84]  Yeah.
[2088.02 --> 2090.92]  Yeah, but they make you be able to do things on your website.
[2091.32 --> 2091.76]  That's true.
[2091.98 --> 2092.32]  All right.
[2092.40 --> 2092.48]  All right.
[2092.48 --> 2094.48]  And the number six most popular.
[2094.94 --> 2096.88]  Hey, it is a JavaScript podcast, after all.
[2097.04 --> 2097.50]  Script.
[2097.90 --> 2098.30]  Whoa.
[2098.86 --> 2099.26]  Wow.
[2099.26 --> 2099.66]  Wow.
[2101.06 --> 2101.84]  I forgot that.
[2101.96 --> 2102.92]  That was part of HTML.
[2102.92 --> 2104.86]  I thought it was part of Webpack.
[2105.88 --> 2106.76]  Honorable mentions.
[2107.28 --> 2108.94]  A couple people mentioned iframe.
[2109.10 --> 2110.60]  UL was mentioned by a couple people.
[2110.74 --> 2113.24]  The picture element was mentioned twice.
[2114.20 --> 2115.86]  Somebody said keep it on the DL.
[2116.02 --> 2116.70]  So they were being very.
[2116.70 --> 2117.10]  Oh.
[2117.70 --> 2118.40]  Cute with that.
[2118.54 --> 2121.24]  And someone actually said div, and then in parentheses they put yeah.
[2121.44 --> 2122.40]  So Divya, you had div.
[2122.40 --> 2122.72]  Yeah.
[2123.12 --> 2123.52]  Yeah.
[2123.86 --> 2124.26]  Wow.
[2124.64 --> 2125.94]  We get points for that, though, right?
[2126.10 --> 2126.90]  Yes, we get points.
[2126.92 --> 2127.04]  Yeah.
[2127.04 --> 2127.14]  Yeah.
[2127.28 --> 2129.56]  I counted that towards the div, so they got their points.
[2129.70 --> 2129.98]  All right.
[2130.04 --> 2134.48]  So in that round, Shop Talk scored 20, and Syntax scored 90.
[2134.62 --> 2136.02]  So we have a game here.
[2136.44 --> 2137.84]  It's going back and forth.
[2137.94 --> 2143.82]  And after four rounds, Syntax is in the lead with 227, and Shop Talk trails with 193.
[2143.82 --> 2145.28]  It's anybody's game at this point.
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[2222.78 --> 2236.38]  We now go to round five.
[2236.46 --> 2238.92]  And I'll tell you, in round five, all scoring is doubled.
[2239.12 --> 2241.48]  So it is certainly anybody's match.
[2242.08 --> 2243.58]  Let's get back to the face-off.
[2245.66 --> 2248.00]  And everybody is faced off at this point, correct?
[2248.56 --> 2249.78]  I believe so.
[2250.00 --> 2250.24]  Yeah.
[2250.24 --> 2251.46]  I think so, because it's round.
[2251.68 --> 2251.88]  Yes.
[2251.88 --> 2256.26]  So we'll go back to the top of the face-off with Amelia and Divya.
[2256.38 --> 2257.26]  And Amelia guessed first.
[2257.32 --> 2257.72]  Last round.
[2257.78 --> 2259.24]  So we'll let Divya go first this round.
[2259.90 --> 2260.24]  All right.
[2260.28 --> 2262.10]  So there's four answers on the board.
[2262.36 --> 2265.46]  Divya, name a common mistake that developers make.
[2265.88 --> 2267.42]  This is such a broad question.
[2268.26 --> 2270.82]  A common mistake developers make?
[2271.34 --> 2271.98]  It even rhymes.
[2272.24 --> 2272.92]  I just noticed that.
[2273.24 --> 2273.40]  Hmm.
[2274.28 --> 2276.78]  They spell debugger wrongly.
[2277.50 --> 2279.30]  I'm not on your team, but good answer.
[2279.56 --> 2279.94]  Good answer.
[2279.94 --> 2284.12]  Show me spelling things wrong.
[2285.62 --> 2286.02]  Yes.
[2286.42 --> 2286.82]  Yes.
[2287.06 --> 2287.68]  Oh, wow.
[2287.68 --> 2289.94]  So we've joined forces.
[2290.12 --> 2292.80]  Typos and misspellings was the number one answer.
[2292.86 --> 2293.52]  I combined the two.
[2293.60 --> 2295.50]  So there's 29 there with typos and misspellings.
[2295.60 --> 2295.90]  Oh.
[2296.10 --> 2298.56]  Because what is a misspelling if not a typo and vice versa?
[2298.70 --> 2300.48]  I mean, you end up spelling it wrong when you typo.
[2300.56 --> 2301.78]  So pretty much the same thing.
[2301.84 --> 2304.50]  That's 29 points and you get to play the round.
[2304.96 --> 2305.14]  So.
[2305.60 --> 2306.10]  All right.
[2306.16 --> 2306.72]  Let's go.
[2306.90 --> 2308.22]  Team Syntax in control.
[2308.46 --> 2310.72]  You have three things left on the board.
[2310.80 --> 2312.54]  Of course, you have three strikes to give.
[2312.92 --> 2313.90]  Scott, it's your turn.
[2313.90 --> 2315.78]  Name a common mistake that developers make.
[2315.78 --> 2317.00]  Oh, gosh.
[2317.80 --> 2319.36]  I don't make mistakes very much.
[2319.56 --> 2319.80]  I don't.
[2321.02 --> 2321.88]  Let's see.
[2322.20 --> 2322.76]  It's tough.
[2322.86 --> 2323.34]  I get it.
[2323.42 --> 2324.06]  I get it.
[2324.14 --> 2324.42]  Yeah.
[2325.24 --> 2326.66]  Scott makes no mistakes.
[2327.24 --> 2327.46]  Yeah.
[2327.46 --> 2327.52]  Yeah.
[2327.52 --> 2328.20]  Never, ever.
[2328.62 --> 2330.26]  Including not spelling things wrong, ever.
[2330.74 --> 2331.10]  Let's see.
[2331.60 --> 2331.72]  I.
[2333.32 --> 2334.76]  Here's a decent answer.
[2334.82 --> 2335.46]  I don't know if this will work.
[2335.52 --> 2336.94]  They pick the wrong technology.
[2337.48 --> 2337.88]  Show me.
[2337.94 --> 2338.68]  Pick the wrong tech.
[2338.68 --> 2341.06]  Oh, man.
[2341.20 --> 2341.72]  Sorry about that.
[2341.76 --> 2342.54]  That is very valid.
[2342.80 --> 2342.94]  Yeah.
[2343.32 --> 2345.38]  Not bad, but didn't quite make the board.
[2346.00 --> 2347.16]  All right, Wes.
[2347.22 --> 2347.86]  It's your turn.
[2348.36 --> 2349.04]  All right.
[2349.88 --> 2352.92]  Would syntax error be covered under spelling things wrong?
[2353.20 --> 2354.24]  Oh, boo.
[2354.34 --> 2354.62]  Hey.
[2357.42 --> 2359.20]  Is that what he was going to guess?
[2359.50 --> 2361.10]  No, it's just it's your namesake.
[2361.22 --> 2361.72]  It's your name.
[2362.04 --> 2362.38]  Oh, yeah.
[2362.44 --> 2362.70]  Yeah.
[2362.70 --> 2363.06]  Yeah.
[2363.06 --> 2363.18]  Yeah.
[2363.18 --> 2364.52]  Syntax is a big mistake.
[2364.66 --> 2365.04]  It is.
[2365.10 --> 2365.38]  Okay.
[2365.38 --> 2368.20]  I'm going to go like syntax error.
[2368.42 --> 2369.78]  I think I lumped it in with typos.
[2369.90 --> 2371.44]  I think I did because I'm not seeing it.
[2371.52 --> 2372.92]  I think that's similar to typos.
[2373.02 --> 2373.08]  No.
[2373.08 --> 2373.34]  Yeah.
[2373.76 --> 2374.10]  All right.
[2374.10 --> 2374.36]  I have.
[2374.46 --> 2375.24]  I have another one then.
[2375.28 --> 2375.48]  Okay.
[2375.78 --> 2376.68]  Forgetting to save.
[2377.12 --> 2377.82]  Oh, that's a good one.
[2378.10 --> 2379.62]  Show me forgetting to save.
[2380.76 --> 2381.08]  Whoa.
[2382.16 --> 2382.60]  Wow.
[2383.06 --> 2383.16]  What?
[2383.42 --> 2385.16]  I guess it's just a tough one.
[2385.52 --> 2386.78]  I got auto save on.
[2387.48 --> 2388.04]  There you go.
[2388.30 --> 2388.60]  All right.
[2388.60 --> 2389.46]  So two strikes.
[2389.92 --> 2390.68]  That's crazy.
[2390.98 --> 2391.20]  Okay.
[2391.20 --> 2392.94]  What's the average age of the audience?
[2393.14 --> 2393.42]  Are they.
[2394.08 --> 2394.32]  Yeah.
[2394.90 --> 2395.20]  Oh.
[2395.38 --> 2396.76]  All 12 year olds on iPads.
[2397.98 --> 2398.88]  Everything's auto saved.
[2399.40 --> 2399.94]  Oh, man.
[2400.36 --> 2400.56]  All right.
[2400.56 --> 2401.34]  We're back at Divya.
[2402.04 --> 2402.52]  Okay, cool.
[2402.70 --> 2407.00]  I think a common mistake that developers will have is.
[2407.68 --> 2407.90]  Okay.
[2407.92 --> 2412.28]  This is very generic, but messing up version control or like git commits.
[2412.50 --> 2413.24]  Oh, yeah.
[2413.44 --> 2413.92]  Hmm.
[2414.12 --> 2416.24]  Show me git problems.
[2418.00 --> 2418.44]  Wow.
[2418.92 --> 2419.48]  What?
[2420.48 --> 2420.92]  Amazing.
[2420.92 --> 2421.98]  So that's three strikes.
[2422.22 --> 2422.32]  Wow.
[2422.32 --> 2423.82]  All the things on my list are Xs.
[2423.90 --> 2424.04]  Yeah.
[2424.14 --> 2424.60]  This is crazy.
[2424.60 --> 2424.78]  Yeah.
[2424.88 --> 2425.28]  I know.
[2425.38 --> 2426.32]  I was like, come on.
[2426.52 --> 2427.80]  So Shop Talk and Steal.
[2427.88 --> 2429.42]  There's still three things on the board.
[2429.50 --> 2430.42]  We only have the number one.
[2430.78 --> 2432.72]  No, we only got two wrong, didn't we?
[2432.72 --> 2434.18]  We only got two, didn't we?
[2434.28 --> 2435.74]  All three of you got one wrong, didn't you?
[2436.12 --> 2437.18]  Pick wrong tech.
[2437.28 --> 2438.20]  Forget to save.
[2438.30 --> 2438.84]  Git mistakes.
[2439.12 --> 2439.40]  Yes.
[2439.52 --> 2439.90]  There we go.
[2439.98 --> 2440.58]  Chris is on it.
[2440.58 --> 2441.20]  Oh, man.
[2441.20 --> 2441.38]  Come on.
[2441.38 --> 2442.18]  Give us one more.
[2442.18 --> 2443.18]  All right.
[2443.18 --> 2444.70]  All right, Shop Talk.
[2444.84 --> 2447.12]  You can confer amongst yourselves.
[2447.30 --> 2448.12]  Oh, we get to talk.
[2448.22 --> 2448.66]  That's right.
[2448.84 --> 2449.08]  Yes.
[2449.42 --> 2451.24]  There was only five answers?
[2451.72 --> 2452.26]  Four total.
[2452.36 --> 2452.82]  Three left.
[2453.14 --> 2453.50]  Wow.
[2453.78 --> 2456.08]  There's no points to steal here.
[2456.40 --> 2457.68]  It is a low scoring round, yeah.
[2457.90 --> 2460.26]  They deploy on Friday, is it possible?
[2460.82 --> 2461.72]  Deploy on Friday.
[2462.30 --> 2466.58]  Messing up types, like trying to add a number and a string.
[2466.78 --> 2468.08]  Type coercion or whatever.
[2468.08 --> 2469.08]  Type coercion.
[2469.20 --> 2472.78]  There's like really big bundles or memory leaks.
[2473.00 --> 2474.32]  Oh, performance problems.
[2474.34 --> 2474.80]  Performance.
[2475.16 --> 2475.60]  Okay.
[2476.08 --> 2476.90]  I like that.
[2477.26 --> 2478.06]  Dev as a button.
[2478.50 --> 2478.90]  Mm-hmm.
[2481.76 --> 2483.72]  Semantic elements, yeah.
[2483.92 --> 2484.96]  How do you say performance?
[2485.06 --> 2487.28]  You used to say like do performance bad.
[2487.84 --> 2488.84]  Yeah, bad performance.
[2489.02 --> 2490.38]  Yeah, you could say do performance bad.
[2490.72 --> 2491.74]  I think that's the way it's about.
[2492.46 --> 2494.30]  Yeah, you should say that.
[2494.30 --> 2494.82]  Okay.
[2496.04 --> 2496.92]  Oh, no.
[2496.92 --> 2499.74]  So, Wes is like in the database, like.
[2501.10 --> 2503.08]  Wes has reverse engineered the form.
[2503.24 --> 2503.54]  Yeah.
[2504.18 --> 2506.94]  He found the form printouts of the dumpster out back.
[2507.28 --> 2507.66]  Yeah.
[2508.12 --> 2508.74]  All right.
[2508.88 --> 2510.82]  Show us do performance bad.
[2515.14 --> 2516.26]  Fail to steal.
[2516.28 --> 2517.94]  I was going to say refresh production.
[2518.16 --> 2519.30]  So, a lot of missed ones here.
[2519.36 --> 2520.90]  This was a trouble round.
[2521.22 --> 2523.34]  Number two answer, off by one errors.
[2523.96 --> 2525.78]  Oh, that's a good one.
[2525.78 --> 2526.46]  Yeah, yeah.
[2526.46 --> 2526.88]  Yeah, that's good.
[2527.00 --> 2529.46]  Number three, forgetting semicolons.
[2530.14 --> 2531.76]  That's why it's a syntax error.
[2532.14 --> 2532.96]  That's a syntax error.
[2532.96 --> 2534.14]  I purposefully do that, yeah.
[2534.14 --> 2536.64]  I said syntax error forgetting a semicolon.
[2537.40 --> 2538.04]  Oh, man.
[2538.18 --> 2538.38]  Yo.
[2538.82 --> 2539.66]  Roll the tape.
[2539.94 --> 2541.48]  It's a very specific response.
[2541.56 --> 2543.44]  It was a very specific response, so I let it have its own.
[2543.46 --> 2544.88]  That's a stylistic thing, too.
[2545.24 --> 2547.24]  I specifically said semicolon, though.
[2547.54 --> 2548.00]  Oh, you did?
[2548.42 --> 2548.58]  Yeah.
[2548.58 --> 2549.42]  Wes did say that.
[2549.56 --> 2550.22]  He did say syntax.
[2550.22 --> 2550.66]  Oh, my fault.
[2550.92 --> 2551.44]  I'm sorry.
[2551.44 --> 2554.16]  I heard syntax error, and then Chris started making fun of him.
[2554.34 --> 2554.96]  Point, point, point, point, point.
[2555.14 --> 2555.48]  It's okay.
[2555.60 --> 2555.96]  It's okay.
[2556.52 --> 2556.82]  All right.
[2556.84 --> 2557.72]  We get that back, then.
[2558.22 --> 2559.18]  Everybody missed it.
[2559.30 --> 2559.92]  My bad.
[2560.10 --> 2561.96]  Number four, premature optimization.
[2562.84 --> 2563.20]  Okay.
[2564.02 --> 2564.58]  Fair enough.
[2564.72 --> 2567.52]  Now, there's a lot of them that just barely missed the top four.
[2567.98 --> 2569.52]  Who put that answer?
[2569.62 --> 2570.90]  Was that Kyle Simpson or something?
[2571.58 --> 2574.20]  Who put spam in our form?
[2574.90 --> 2575.66]  Yeah, yeah.
[2575.94 --> 2576.10]  No.
[2576.18 --> 2576.96]  Yeah, perhaps.
[2577.18 --> 2577.38]  All right.
[2577.42 --> 2578.84]  There's a bunch of them that were tied at five.
[2578.84 --> 2581.06]  Breaking production was answered a lot.
[2581.22 --> 2582.62]  Editing or testing the wrong thing.
[2582.70 --> 2584.88]  So that's similar to what you're talking about there, Wes, with not saving.
[2585.56 --> 2586.90]  Leftover console logs.
[2587.74 --> 2590.34]  Bad docs, no docs, and then overengineering.
[2590.42 --> 2592.34]  Those are all mentioned five times.
[2592.90 --> 2594.88]  One person said building the wrong thing.
[2595.20 --> 2597.16]  Oh, I accidentally built a website for it.
[2597.16 --> 2598.94]  One said building things nobody wants.
[2599.18 --> 2599.38]  Yeah.
[2599.74 --> 2600.00]  Yeah.
[2600.32 --> 2601.36]  Showed up to meeting.
[2601.72 --> 2601.90]  Yeah.
[2602.56 --> 2604.38]  I built a div instead of a button.
[2605.08 --> 2607.18]  One person said writing code.
[2607.18 --> 2609.86]  And then one person said getting stuck in Vim.
[2610.02 --> 2610.98]  So we can't go.
[2611.30 --> 2612.34]  Getting stuck in Vim.
[2612.34 --> 2614.32]  Every friend has to have a Vim reference.
[2614.50 --> 2615.00]  And there it is.
[2615.00 --> 2615.10]  Come on.
[2615.44 --> 2616.24]  So there's your trolls.
[2617.12 --> 2617.40]  All right.
[2617.44 --> 2620.38]  So there's 29 points scored by Team Syntax.
[2620.46 --> 2622.36]  And since it's a double round, we will double that.
[2622.46 --> 2622.68]  Yeah.
[2623.34 --> 2625.24]  Do we get points for the semicolon too?
[2625.86 --> 2626.30]  No.
[2627.36 --> 2628.66]  We fought hard and we lost.
[2628.80 --> 2629.28]  I apologize.
[2629.78 --> 2630.48]  That's an upset.
[2630.80 --> 2631.70]  The law one.
[2631.70 --> 2637.96]  So after round five, it's Syntax 285 and Shop Talk 193.
[2638.06 --> 2640.34]  We have just one round left.
[2641.18 --> 2641.62]  Sick.
[2641.80 --> 2642.66]  Let's go.
[2642.86 --> 2643.18]  All right.
[2643.28 --> 2645.40]  Round six is also a double score round.
[2645.50 --> 2647.96]  So this is Shop Talk's big chance to make a comeback.
[2648.10 --> 2648.68]  Step right up.
[2650.76 --> 2653.16]  Chris versus Scott.
[2653.36 --> 2656.28]  Now, which one of you two got the first guess last time around?
[2656.36 --> 2656.70]  Was it Scott?
[2656.78 --> 2658.32]  So we'll let Chris take the first guess here.
[2658.60 --> 2658.86]  I did.
[2658.86 --> 2660.30]  Round six, a double round.
[2660.40 --> 2667.46]  We asked 140 intelligent JS Party listeners, name an organization that helps push the web
[2667.46 --> 2667.92]  forward.
[2668.82 --> 2669.12]  Chris.
[2670.02 --> 2671.68]  The W3C.
[2672.20 --> 2673.56]  Show me the W3C.
[2675.16 --> 2676.88]  That is the number three answer.
[2677.00 --> 2680.22]  It's not the number one answer, which means Scott has a chance to take the round.
[2680.84 --> 2681.50]  Oh, man.
[2681.50 --> 2684.40]  Scott, name an organization that helps push the web forward.
[2685.28 --> 2686.46]  An organization.
[2686.76 --> 2687.24]  You got it.
[2687.24 --> 2689.92]  That helps an organization.
[2690.96 --> 2693.02]  Does that include like nonprofits?
[2693.70 --> 2697.16]  Like the, uh, uh, helps push the web forward.
[2697.76 --> 2698.76]  Man, this is tough.
[2699.58 --> 2700.48]  I don't know.
[2700.86 --> 2701.70]  Let's say.
[2702.06 --> 2702.32]  Take a guess.
[2702.76 --> 2703.04]  Yeah.
[2703.26 --> 2703.80]  Come on, Scott.
[2703.88 --> 2704.70]  We had a show on this.
[2704.78 --> 2705.82]  Oh, and a friend.
[2706.54 --> 2708.16]  We had a show on this?
[2708.16 --> 2708.72]  No helping him.
[2708.84 --> 2709.06]  Yeah.
[2709.06 --> 2713.58]  We had a show on this.
[2713.74 --> 2714.14]  What is that?
[2714.66 --> 2716.60]  What else did we possibly have a show on?
[2717.18 --> 2719.66]  Scott's now going through 300 of the states.
[2721.30 --> 2722.76]  We're going to need an answer here, Scott.
[2722.94 --> 2723.22]  Guess what?
[2723.22 --> 2723.50]  Shoot.
[2724.12 --> 2724.52]  Shoot.
[2725.06 --> 2726.14]  I don't know.
[2726.78 --> 2729.10]  Organization that helps push the web forward.
[2730.84 --> 2731.92]  I know.
[2732.02 --> 2732.74]  I'm sorry, Wes.
[2732.74 --> 2734.12]  Uh, I'm very sorry.
[2734.96 --> 2735.40]  Hmm.
[2736.10 --> 2736.52]  Hmm.
[2736.96 --> 2737.36]  Hmm.
[2739.12 --> 2741.60]  Wes is trying to provide visual aid too.
[2742.26 --> 2743.56]  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[2743.94 --> 2745.72]  We got some baseball.
[2746.46 --> 2747.50]  This is table talk.
[2749.46 --> 2751.00]  Apparently he wants you to steal a base.
[2751.08 --> 2751.74]  I don't know what he's doing.
[2751.74 --> 2752.94]  I don't know what he's saying either.
[2752.96 --> 2754.04]  The Baltimore Orioles.
[2757.12 --> 2757.96]  Oh, gosh.
[2757.98 --> 2758.60]  All right, Scott.
[2759.38 --> 2760.22]  I'm so sorry.
[2760.38 --> 2760.52]  Yeah.
[2760.60 --> 2761.36]  Free code camp.
[2761.44 --> 2761.82]  Who cares?
[2762.30 --> 2763.00]  Free code camp.
[2763.08 --> 2763.60]  Show me free code camp.
[2763.62 --> 2764.40]  Oh, that's a good one.
[2765.46 --> 2766.50]  That's pretty good, though.
[2766.60 --> 2767.40]  Yeah, I liked it.
[2767.62 --> 2768.24]  All right.
[2768.60 --> 2769.76]  Shop Talk gets the round.
[2769.84 --> 2773.42]  Shop Talk, you're well positioned to steal this game right here and now.
[2773.78 --> 2775.78]  Chris got the number three answer.
[2775.88 --> 2777.98]  There's five total answers on the board.
[2778.02 --> 2778.20]  We got this.
[2778.28 --> 2778.82]  We got it.
[2779.12 --> 2779.94]  So there's four left.
[2779.94 --> 2781.78]  Numbers one, two, four, and five.
[2781.90 --> 2783.48]  And we go to Dave.
[2783.78 --> 2786.08]  Dave, name an organization that helps push the web forward.
[2787.02 --> 2788.16]  Google Chrome.
[2788.44 --> 2788.68]  Google.
[2789.18 --> 2790.26]  Show me Google.
[2791.92 --> 2793.16]  Number two answer.
[2793.30 --> 2793.56]  Google.
[2793.76 --> 2794.40]  That makes sense.
[2794.52 --> 2796.14]  With 28 responses.
[2796.46 --> 2797.74]  I wasn't thinking like corporations.
[2798.30 --> 2798.68]  All right.
[2798.70 --> 2799.72]  That's two and three.
[2799.92 --> 2800.84]  One, four, and five are left.
[2800.96 --> 2802.76]  Amelia, it's up to you.
[2803.40 --> 2804.88]  I'm going to go with MDN.
[2805.44 --> 2808.24]  Show me Mozilla Developer Network.
[2808.24 --> 2808.72]  Yes.
[2809.72 --> 2810.82]  Number one answer.
[2811.52 --> 2811.80]  Yes.
[2811.80 --> 2812.38]  Oh, my God.
[2813.12 --> 2816.38]  51 answers were Mozilla and MDM.
[2816.84 --> 2817.18]  Yes.
[2817.66 --> 2820.34]  So, killing it, you have just.
[2820.48 --> 2822.42]  But we can lose it if we don't get the fourth one.
[2822.44 --> 2822.88]  Two left.
[2822.94 --> 2823.66]  There's five total.
[2823.74 --> 2824.16]  There's two left.
[2824.16 --> 2825.46]  Oh, there's five left.
[2825.72 --> 2826.02]  Yeah.
[2826.40 --> 2827.16]  Back to you, Chris.
[2827.40 --> 2827.86]  Oh, boy.
[2827.98 --> 2828.66]  Two left.
[2828.80 --> 2829.10]  Uh-oh.
[2829.50 --> 2831.48]  It's not going to be freaking Apple, right?
[2831.48 --> 2834.70]  And then all they get is yelled at for not pushing the web forward.
[2835.94 --> 2837.28]  Web kit everything.
[2839.58 --> 2840.70]  Remember, you get three strikes.
[2840.80 --> 2843.22]  So, you can throw one out there and see what happens.
[2843.78 --> 2844.32]  Oh, yeah.
[2844.54 --> 2845.54]  Oh, that's true, right?
[2846.48 --> 2850.92]  I'm just going to go with Microsoft because they actually do work in the web.
[2851.76 --> 2852.16]  Microsoft.
[2852.62 --> 2853.72]  Show me Microsoft.
[2854.04 --> 2854.52]  Survey says.
[2854.52 --> 2857.18]  Number five answer.
[2857.34 --> 2859.90]  So, now you've gotten one, two, three, and five.
[2859.90 --> 2861.46]  There's one answer left.
[2861.62 --> 2862.76]  And you have three strikes.
[2862.84 --> 2863.56]  So, you're sitting pretty.
[2864.46 --> 2865.24]  Dave, it's to you.
[2866.14 --> 2868.40]  I'll do TC39.
[2869.64 --> 2870.52]  ECMA script.
[2871.90 --> 2873.24]  Show me TC39.
[2874.14 --> 2874.54]  Hey.
[2875.10 --> 2876.54]  Oh, man.
[2876.54 --> 2877.26]  That was the one.
[2877.46 --> 2879.18]  I was telling Scott we did a show on.
[2879.22 --> 2879.62]  Yeah, I know.
[2879.70 --> 2880.24]  I was like.
[2880.96 --> 2882.32]  I didn't say CSS strikes.
[2882.64 --> 2883.70]  Why were you touching your head?
[2883.70 --> 2885.00]  I was thinking like head.
[2885.24 --> 2886.30]  What's got head involved?
[2886.32 --> 2887.46]  I didn't get the hat thing.
[2887.48 --> 2888.36]  Look at your hat.
[2888.98 --> 2889.82]  What hat are you wearing?
[2889.98 --> 2890.98]  It's a GitHub hat.
[2893.72 --> 2895.50]  Oh, GitHub would be a good answer.
[2895.84 --> 2896.02]  Yeah.
[2896.28 --> 2897.38]  That is true, yeah.
[2897.50 --> 2899.38]  I would have said Smashing Magazine personally.
[2899.46 --> 2901.30]  Well, GitHub is Microsoft at this point.
[2901.38 --> 2901.92]  That's true.
[2902.46 --> 2902.72]  Yeah.
[2903.00 --> 2903.60]  That's true.
[2903.60 --> 2906.10]  So, that was a huge round for Shop Talk.
[2906.26 --> 2907.28]  That was round six.
[2907.40 --> 2909.34]  The final round is also a double round.
[2910.08 --> 2910.60]  Oh, man.
[2910.70 --> 2912.10]  They scored all of the points.
[2912.10 --> 2917.00]  And when you double all those points, that round alone was 216 points.
[2917.22 --> 2918.54]  Oh, my gosh.
[2920.48 --> 2921.68]  I'm so sorry.
[2921.90 --> 2927.34]  With 409 points, the winner of Front End Feud Super Collab is Shop Talk.
[2927.34 --> 2929.36]  I have never lost on this program.
[2931.14 --> 2932.54]  I'm so sorry, guys.
[2932.56 --> 2933.04]  Congratulations.
[2934.20 --> 2935.56]  You stole it from us.
[2936.36 --> 2937.12]  I know.
[2937.56 --> 2939.42]  No thanks to double points, yeah.
[2939.86 --> 2940.20]  Killer.
[2940.20 --> 2941.86]  I like my points non-doubled, okay?
[2942.00 --> 2942.34]  Thank you.
[2943.52 --> 2944.64]  That's how you lost.
[2946.32 --> 2947.26]  All right.
[2947.36 --> 2949.54]  Well, Shop Talk, congratulations on the big win.
[2949.76 --> 2950.42]  What do you win?
[2950.50 --> 2954.68]  Well, you win an opportunity to shout out or say whatever you like.
[2954.78 --> 2955.60]  You cannot gloat.
[2955.68 --> 2957.64]  You must say something not about syntax.
[2957.74 --> 2958.70]  It has to be anything else.
[2959.46 --> 2960.22]  Shout out something.
[2960.58 --> 2962.78]  This is your chance to speak to the JS Party listeners.
[2963.58 --> 2964.28]  Chris, you want to go?
[2964.42 --> 2966.12]  You said you had something earlier.
[2966.12 --> 2968.98]  I was just thinking of it because I came across my desk.
[2969.12 --> 2980.84]  There's like a local feud in town here in Bend, and this guy's like really mad that they put a gate on his property, and he made a whole website about the gate and how mad he is about it.
[2980.90 --> 2985.20]  And I want to shout out to feud websites because we're playing the feud anyway.
[2985.36 --> 2985.78]  Nice.
[2985.92 --> 2986.88]  So I think you get extra.
[2987.02 --> 2990.30]  It's extra cool to make a website out of your madness.
[2990.30 --> 2993.48]  Make that beef public.
[2993.72 --> 2994.92]  Just make that beef public.
[2995.96 --> 2997.84]  Well, at least build something constructive.
[2998.32 --> 2998.48]  Yeah.
[2999.42 --> 3000.34]  That's beautiful.
[3000.56 --> 3012.68]  Well, my shout out is going to be to Amelia's cool GitHub visualization project to help you visualize a GitHub repo in a non-directory of files way.
[3012.78 --> 3013.54]  I think it's really cool.
[3013.82 --> 3014.30]  So aim.
[3014.42 --> 3014.98]  Thanks, Dave.
[3015.80 --> 3016.06]  Yeah.
[3016.36 --> 3017.68]  I will double that effort.
[3017.78 --> 3019.08]  I think I shouted out last episode.
[3019.08 --> 3019.74]  We're so impressed.
[3019.80 --> 3020.88]  We just keep bringing it up, Amelia.
[3020.96 --> 3021.36]  Nice work.
[3021.44 --> 3024.42]  Would you like to give a shout out maybe back to Dave or anybody else?
[3025.10 --> 3028.40]  I was actually going to say CSS Tricks for the last question.
[3028.74 --> 3032.92]  So shout out to CSS Tricks, even though it wasn't on the board for some reason.
[3033.58 --> 3034.94]  For pushing the web forward.
[3035.16 --> 3035.74]  I agree.
[3036.06 --> 3036.76]  That's what I do.
[3037.28 --> 3040.46]  I should say there were a couple of honorable mentions that round in all of the excitement.
[3040.56 --> 3041.06]  I forgot about them.
[3041.08 --> 3043.50]  So the Chromium team themselves got a couple of shout outs.
[3044.20 --> 3046.10]  Vercel got three shout outs.
[3046.60 --> 3048.80]  The EFF, the Electronic Frontier Foundation.
[3048.80 --> 3049.08]  Oh, yeah.
[3049.20 --> 3049.52]  Four.
[3049.78 --> 3050.12]  Oh, yeah.
[3050.12 --> 3053.36]  And then a couple people shouted out open source, even though it's not an organization,
[3053.58 --> 3056.62]  but definitely the open source community pushing things forward.
[3056.78 --> 3059.48]  I will back up what Amelia says and say CSS Tricks.
[3059.56 --> 3064.36]  Definitely pushing web developers and web development forward over the years, as well as y'all's
[3064.36 --> 3064.94]  podcasts.
[3065.68 --> 3067.28]  Awesome stuff continuing to put out.
[3068.46 --> 3070.14]  As well as free Code Camp, too, right?
[3070.52 --> 3070.92]  Yeah.
[3071.10 --> 3072.04]  That's also a good one.
[3072.20 --> 3072.32]  Yeah.
[3072.38 --> 3072.82]  Yeah, absolutely.
[3073.20 --> 3073.82]  I'm surprised that wasn't on there.
[3073.82 --> 3075.60]  It got one mention, I believe.
[3076.06 --> 3077.00]  And level up tutorials.
[3077.30 --> 3077.52]  Yeah.
[3077.78 --> 3078.38]  Level up tutorials.
[3078.56 --> 3078.64]  Yeah.
[3078.76 --> 3079.62]  Anything else to shout out?
[3079.62 --> 3080.54]  West Boss' blog.
[3081.36 --> 3082.86]  West Boss.com forward slash courses.
[3083.22 --> 3088.94]  React for beginners wasn't on there because I feel like 100% of people who know React know
[3088.94 --> 3090.38]  it because of Wes' course.
[3090.74 --> 3092.06]  So is that not on there?
[3092.44 --> 3092.88]  There we go.
[3092.94 --> 3093.96]  Got all our plugs in.
[3094.00 --> 3094.40]  There we go.
[3094.62 --> 3094.88]  Yep.
[3094.96 --> 3095.42]  There we go.
[3095.60 --> 3096.02]  There we go.
[3096.02 --> 3097.54]  Definitely should have been on there.
[3097.60 --> 3101.06]  Well, we'll give one last shout out to a JS Party listener.
[3101.52 --> 3106.56]  The winner of the free JS Party t-shirt, remember everybody who took the survey had a chance
[3106.56 --> 3107.02]  at it, is...
[3107.82 --> 3113.18]  Geneve Parrish.
[3113.26 --> 3114.12]  Geneve, you won a free shirt.
[3114.64 --> 3114.96]  Hey!
[3115.32 --> 3115.76]  Hey!
[3115.96 --> 3116.70]  Yes!
[3116.94 --> 3117.20]  Yay!
[3117.88 --> 3119.46]  That was so sad.
[3120.80 --> 3121.24]  Yay!
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[3126.00 --> 3127.00]  I love you.
[3127.00 --> 3128.00]  Yay!
[3128.00 --> 3129.00]  I love you.
[3129.00 --> 3130.00]  I love you.
[3130.00 --> 3131.00]  I love you.
[3131.00 --> 3132.00]  Hey.
[3132.00 --> 3133.00]  I love you.
[3133.00 --> 3134.28]  Anyway, I love you.
[3135.00 --> 3139.32]  Today, I'll give you a free shirt to one random member of our JS Party community slack,
[3139.32 --> 3142.00]  so if you don't hang out in there with us, you should.
[3142.00 --> 3143.00]  It's Pound JS Party.
[3143.00 --> 3146.00]  You can hop in there at changelog.com slash community.
[3146.00 --> 3147.16]  It's all free.
[3147.16 --> 3148.28]  Hang out during the live shows.
[3148.28 --> 3150.60]  Let's talk web dev with us.
[3150.60 --> 3151.26]  On what?
[3151.26 --> 3155.72]  September 17th, I decided we'll just pick a random person in that channel, and we'll ship you
[3155.72 --> 3157.00]  a free JS Party t-shirt as well.
[3157.38 --> 3160.22]  I want to thank the guys from Syntax and Shop Talk
[3160.22 --> 3162.84]  for joining the show and playing this awesome game with us.
[3162.92 --> 3164.76]  Round of applause for just the participation right there.
[3167.20 --> 3170.26]  And of course, thank you to Divya and Amelia
[3170.26 --> 3173.58]  for sprinkling the JS Party into the show.
[3173.74 --> 3174.06]  Love it.
[3176.32 --> 3178.72]  Thank you all listeners for playing along with us.
[3178.80 --> 3179.72]  This has been Front End View.
[3179.82 --> 3181.98]  This has been JS Party, and we will talk to you next time.
[3185.72 --> 3190.34]  If you enjoyed Front End Feud, we've played it twice before.
[3190.72 --> 3194.78]  Check out the other editions at jsparty.fm slash 147
[3194.78 --> 3197.28]  and jsparty.fm slash 151.
[3197.58 --> 3200.46]  Or just search for Front End Feud in your podcast app of choice.
[3200.58 --> 3202.72]  I'm pretty sure we're the only ones playing this game.
[3203.14 --> 3205.78]  Hey, if JS Party is your jam, take it to the next level
[3205.78 --> 3207.64]  with a Change Log++ subscription.
[3207.94 --> 3210.12]  That's the best way to directly support the show
[3210.12 --> 3211.36]  and make the ads disappear.
[3211.36 --> 3212.96]  And during the month of September,
[3213.14 --> 3215.46]  we are throwing in a free t-shirt of your choice
[3215.46 --> 3216.82]  when you sign up on the yearly plan
[3216.82 --> 3220.12]  so you can rep JS Party in meat space and that comfy tee.
[3220.64 --> 3223.20]  Sign up today at changelog.com slash plus plus
[3223.20 --> 3225.24]  and we'll send you a coupon code for that free shirt.
[3225.82 --> 3227.40]  JS Party is produced by Jared Santo
[3227.40 --> 3229.30]  with music by Breakmaster Cylinder.
[3229.56 --> 3232.06]  We are brought to you by Fastly, LaunchDarkly, and Linode.
[3232.38 --> 3234.26]  Next up on the pod, Amelia and Nick
[3234.26 --> 3235.74]  talk to the folks behind The Pudding,
[3235.96 --> 3238.50]  a digital publication that explains ideas
[3238.50 --> 3240.64]  debated in culture with visual essays.
[3240.64 --> 3242.80]  We'll have that one ready for you next week.
[3245.46 --> 3248.22]  Game on!