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And they're like, I just saw this, I heard this. I, you know, but that aside, do you think that's the answer?
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And they do the video situation. And now we also have to evolve and add video to how we do podcasting because times have changed and there's nothing wrong with that.
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And not everybody has to know everything, but you do need people that you can lean on. And you also need people that you can
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which I think is a NGO non-profit media house that kind of shares breaking news with the public.
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So when it comes to joy, have you given yourself the permission to be happy or do you feel like you have to be stuck in a cycle of
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I found this in Proverbs chapter 4. I love the book of Proverbs in case you don't know. There's just so much, so much, so much wisdom.
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And I mean, as the leader of the national team, you get to form part of those values, whether they're written down or not.
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You know, is Trump the factor here? He's being inaugurated next week as the next US president, Mr. Donald Trump. Is he a factor? You know, what does this mean? How are things going to unfold? Benji, how are you saying? Are you good?
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So my dad would buy us Barbie dolls. I would literally like rip off the head and the arms and do funny things to it.
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and then we're gonna lean into the gifts of the of the spirit but before the gifts we need the fruit and then we need the process and
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I think what I enjoyed the most about the conversation is that when I think when I first expected this crunch guy who's got this fixed routine and I think I got to understand that not everyone who gets to the top needs that personality,
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It's a good idea when it looks lucrative, when it looks like when it looks shiny, like how do you how do you know to say mm-mm?
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There is a people pleasing thing that is almost instilled in women where
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And they don't listen. They don't listen. So they'd rather us sever the friendship than them not have a side check when they're married. Or do you get what I'm saying?
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And that I want to get to a situation where I can, you know, as soon as I pressure you, as soon as I impose whatever I want to impose, it could be in the form of sanctions.
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Okay, now you're going to finish the sentence, neh? A wise woman. In fact, you can share words that your mother has left you with, the words that you will always remember by umanlov, uko control.
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So they send all their suggestions, some brilliant, good suggestions. I'm like, thanks, guys. Got shot. I've got this. And then Saturday, I am literally buried in my house, busy. Sunday, same thing. Oh, no, on Saturday, I at least got to go to Pappuccino's.
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for something that's very hard to prove because it's very hard to prove rape and it's very hard to prove assault, sexual assault.
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The marketers are not the advertisers. And advertisers are still very smart people because they have to understand so much to be able to do what they do.
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Right. But I'm going to say I probably could if you were a dancer or something that's easy to do, like a dancer, cook. Those things are easy because the content is already viral. The runway's been created. And that's what people don't understand. So if you are.
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And it was started by a guy called, well, before I even talk about who started it, it's actually been coined the miracle product because at the time that it was invented, it used innovations that had never been seen in the market before.
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So you, in this moment, you're giving this advice to your friends.
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The bond. You give her an allowance. She doesn't have to work. That's not treating her well if you just honor her and disrespect her when she's not around you.
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How did you reconcile just from that moment? Especially because like now you're like the top of the top.
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You need to grow. Like I can't be the voice of marketing all day and just showing you guys the stuff online. It's not going to work. That's why I do other things.
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And all skills can exist and be expressed in different ways.
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If it was okay, it wouldn't be part of company policy that you can't speak to people or even ask them questions like that. Do you understand what I'm saying?
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But also, I think your character will decide what you decide to invest in, right?
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So we're ending it off there. I will only have a conversation about LVMH, luxury shopping experiences and Oceans More with people who have read the financials of the companies.
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Thank you so much, John. It's wonderful to talk to you, sir. A very insightful conversation. Yeah, so keep doing the work we are doing. Keep making a positive impact in South Africa. Thank you so much, sir.
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It's always very well planned that, okay, this is an intentional, sabbatical, intentional break. And I was like, you know what?
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Well versed in terms of left versus right, they just need to recognize that you know what, these ideas these guys are giving us, they are not working.
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Now, Barbie was founded by a businesswoman called Ruth. And I want to get her surname so I can get it right. Her name is Ruth Handler. And Ruth designed the doll in 1951, modeled around her daughter.
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Um, all of this could have been avoided uh with the right policies, the right mindsets.
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Or if you're a student, you would tell your tutor that this is the goal. I'm trying to get an A here, or I'm trying to get this here.
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Essentially, what you and your team did, how far would you say it moved us forward in terms of medicine and what we're able to do in terms of, you know, healing disease? Like, how many years do you think we leaped by having?
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Have I opened myself up to them? Have I given them the room to open up themselves, to open themselves up to me? Is there grace in my relationships? If there isn't, and if there's this awkwardness, how can I?
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The very interesting thing is that if you poll South Africans,
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Um so so last year the growth was not point six percent.
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